[open-science] Translations of open science roadmap documents in Poland

[Paola Di Maio]

Pawel

thank you. I understand there may be reasons for working in a local language

I think one of the central ideas in open science, is that in the current
climate and networked envronments, it is difficult , maybe impossible, to
do 'good science' in isolation

chosing a specific language means isolating the knowledge from anyone who
does not speak it

depends on what the community want to achieve.how long term they are
thinking. if they intend to continue to work
as the 'polish island' of open science, then translation is not needed

if they want to make sure their work is aligned, or at least related to the
rest of the world
work in this field of open science, then id say they have to chance their
rules, fast

it's difficult not to come across as arrogant anglocentrism with such a
request but...
It is estimated that if the EU had invested more money in training citizens
to speak english in the last 20 years (approx 5 years training per person
to achieve proficiency)
it would have saved masses of public money in translations (nightmare,
nightmare)


english please :-) or  probably remain an island

just my thought

PDM

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Paweł Szczęsny <ps at pawelszczesny.org>wrote:

> Thanks Paola.
>
> These documents are not prepared by an international community, they
> in principle concern only Poland and they do not qualify as
> "scientific communication". I would have hard time convincing anybody
> to work on them in English (additionally, it's actually forbidden by
> law in case of the Academy to work on official documents in language
> other than Polish).
>
> I know that official translations add significant overhead, that's why
> I'm asking if it's needed at all.
>
> Cheers
> PS
>
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Pawel
> >
> > of course it would be interesting to read what you guys are doing i
> Poland,
> > but I wonder
> >
> > why was the original document not written in english in the first place
> (the
> > lingua franca
> > for scientific communication afaik)
> >
> > translations can be awkard, costly, need checking etc
> >
> > P
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Paweł Szczęsny <ps at pawelszczesny.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Currently there are two roadmap documents concerning development of
> >> open science in Poland in the works. One is an initiative of research
> >> community (open science working group of movement called Citizen of
> >> Science) and will concern general directions of development of open
> >> science in areas of OA, OD, OER, citizen science etc. The other is a
> >> document on OA (and most likely on OD) prepared by Polish Academy of
> >> Sciences.
> >>
> >> I am involved in preparations of both documents and I cannot promise
> >> extremely progressive declarations in either of roadmaps (the biggest
> >> factor is cost of certain 'open' solutions, such as gold OA on hybrid
> >> terms). Nevertheless, both might be of interest to the international
> >> open science community.
> >>
> >> The question is if there is indeed an interest outside of Poland that
> >> warrants translations of both documents into English? I don't mind
> >> providing quick summary after both are published, but that's not I
> >> mean here. If I have your explicit interest (especially from people
> >> outside of UK/US), that could help in including international context
> >> in the roadmap (which I would really like to have). That's why I'm
> >> asking so early (the work just has started).
> >>
> >> Best wishes
> >> PS
> >>
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