[open-science] open-science Digest, Vol 423, Issue 1
Jan Velterop
velterop at gmail.com
Fri Jan 31 12:06:10 UTC 2014
I shared it with SciELO people. (Worth looking at all they do in regard of open access: scielo.org).
Jan
On 31 Jan 2014, at 12:00, open-science-request at lists.okfn.org wrote:
> Send open-science mailing list submissions to
> open-science at lists.okfn.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-science
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> open-science-request at lists.okfn.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> open-science-owner at lists.okfn.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of open-science digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Open Science WG 2014 - Tasks and Team! (Alexandre Hannud Abdo)
> 2. H2020 Open Access Guideline: (Stefan Kasberger)
> 3. Re: H2020 Open Access Guideline: (Egon Willighagen)
> 4. Re: H2020 Open Access Guideline: (Ignasi Labastida i Juan)
> 5. Re: H2020 Open Access Guideline: (Egon Willighagen)
> 6. Re: Open Science WG 2014 - Tasks and Team! (Raniere Silva)
> 7. Re: H2020 Open Access Guideline: (Peter Murray-Rust)
> 8. Re: Open Science WG 2014 - Tasks and Team! (Peter Murray-Rust)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 23:23:58 -0200
> From: Alexandre Hannud Abdo <abdo at member.fsf.org>
> To: "open-science at lists.okfn.org" <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [open-science] Open Science WG 2014 - Tasks and Team!
> Message-ID: <52EAFB2E.1070001 at member.fsf.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi Jenny!
>
> Thanks for the summary :)
>
> I've translated your message into Portuguese, it's now on the Brazilian
> working group's blog, I'm hoping it will attract more volunteers:
>
> http://www.cienciaaberta.net/relato-do-grupo-de-trabalho-global-em-ciencia-aberta/
>
> ((I wonder if there are people from other Portuguese speaking countries
> on this list.))
>
> Beyond the BR WG stuff, I might volunteer myself to help with open
> science manuals globally if no one else shows up, though I still got to
> check with some other commitments I've made this semester. :|
>
> Cheers, - I should go make some tea now...
>
> ale
> .~?
>
> On 21-01-2014 12:19, Jenny Molloy wrote:
>> Dear All
>>
>> Thanks to those who joined in the meeting yesterday evening [1], we
>> discussed what the working group should focus on for 2014 and also
>> having a coordination team to make sure everything runs smoothly - a
>> special thanks to all those who volunteered to help out with this and
>> all those coordinating local groups and projects. We'd love your
>> feedback and suggestions on the ideas below or new projects you would
>> like to propose.
>> *
>> *
>> *Open Science Working Group 2014 Projects* (followed by specific
>> activities/tasks and initial coordinators)
>>
>> 1. *Content-mining* (Puneet Kishor, Peter Murray-Rust, Ross Mounce)
>> * Case studies/awareness raising
>> * Workshops (inc. possibly one at OKFest)
>> * Interested in joining? There is a new mailing list [2]
>> * Look out for a separate call on this project
>> 2. *Local groups* (Graham Steele)
>> * Expanding the number of open science ambassadors and local groups.
>> * Local group starter kit (howto, mailing list, wiki, website,
>> visibility in global working group).
>> * Map and directory on WG website to help people find local open
>> science activities.
>> 3. *Open Science Census* (Local groups)
>> * Mapping local open science landscape - relevant law and policy,
>> funding, initiatives, attitudes etc
>> * A Brazilian
>> example https://pt.wikiversity.org/wiki/Pesquisa:Ci%C3%AAncia_aberta_no_Brasil
>> * To be led by individuals or local groups - get in touch if you
>> are interested in writing and finding collaborators to work on a
>> report for your country!
>> 4. *Open Science for Development* (Jenny Molloy)
>> * This year we were involved in a scoping project around open
>> science in the global South and will continue to engage in
>> community building and collaboration with the partners we gained
>> from that.
>> 5. *Building Open Science Manuals *(Anyone interested in coordinating
>> this?)
>> * Improving English Wikipedia pages on Open Science
>> * Compiling resources
>> e.g. http://digitheadslabnotebook.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/guide-to-open-science.html
>> * Sharing knowledge from local groups e.g.
>> https://pt.wikiversity.org/wiki/Manual_de_Ci?ncia_Aberta
>> <https://pt.wikiversity.org/wiki/Manual_de_Ci%C3%AAncia_Aberta>
>> 6. *Open Science Training *(Anyone interested in coordinating this?)
>> * Panton Fellow Sophie Kay developed a fantastic training
>> initiative http://www.opensciencetraining.com/
>> * We would like to start a conversation and compile further open
>> materials for teaching aspects of open science or using open
>> science in teaching.
>>
>> *Working Group Coordination*
>>
>> Mailing list: Ross Mounce
>> Blog Editors: Kathleen Luschek, Rayna St and Scott Edmunds
>> Website and Social Media: Brian Glanz and Graham Steele
>> Local Groups: Graham Steele
>> WG and Advisory Board Meetings: Stefan Kasberger, Keren Limor, Suchith
>> Anand, Sridhar Gutam
>> General Coordination: Jenny Molloy
>>
>> If anyone else would like to get involved, you are still welcome to sign
>> up on the volunteer sheet [3] - the more the merrier.
>>
>> Thanks very much and look out for communications from the new team very
>> soon, we are also hoping to see an overhaul of some of the website
>> features so it is much easier to add yourself as a working group member
>> and find others interested in open science in your area or specialism!
>>
>> Jenny
>>
>> *
>> *
>> [1] Meeting pad http://okfnpad.org/p/science-coord-20jan2014
>> [2]* *https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-contentmining
>> [3]
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtV3tIqIu0UZdHg0NDFkRy1POWhwQ2tsOEdTa2kyNlE&usp=drive_web#gid=0
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> open-science mailing list
>> open-science at lists.okfn.org
>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-science
>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/open-science
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 03:55:28 +0100
> From: Stefan Kasberger <mail at stefankasberger.at>
> To: "open-science at lists.okfn.org" <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
> Subject: [open-science] H2020 Open Access Guideline:
> Message-ID: <52EB10A0.7090606 at stefankasberger.at>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> hey,
>
> i've made some short research about the H2020 Open Access mandate, and
> unfortunately all I found was not satisfying. as read in this document
> http://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/data/ref/h2020/grants_manual/hi/oa_pilot/h2020-hi-oa-pilot-guide_en.pdf
> the framework defines open access only in access, not in rights to use.
>
> page 6:
> "In order to comply with this requirement, beneficiaries must,at the
> very least, ensure that their publications, if any,can be read online,
> downloaded and printed. However, as any additional rights such as the
> right to copy, distribute, search, link, crawl, and mine increase the
> utility of the accessible publication, beneficiaries should make every
> effort to provide for as many of them as possible."
>
> do I get something wrong, or was the open access thing all the time not
> compliant with the opendefinition? thought this will also include
> stringent copyrights and mandatory real open access policy. sadly it
> seems not so...
>
> cheers, stefan
> --
> *Stefan Kasberger*
> *E* mail at stefankasberger.at
> *W* www.openscienceASAP.org
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <https://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/open-science/attachments/20140131/c8efceef/attachment-0001.html>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 07:11:41 +0100
> From: Egon Willighagen <egon.willighagen at gmail.com>
> To: Stefan Kasberger <mail at stefankasberger.at>
> Cc: "open-science at lists.okfn.org" <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [open-science] H2020 Open Access Guideline:
> Message-ID:
> <CAMPqvY_1JPUi-+v_LuOj_P03unuV68tAUZarBdUY22piQ4ia1g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Stefan Kasberger
> <mail at stefankasberger.at> wrote:
>> do I get something wrong, or was the open access thing all the time not
>> compliant with the opendefinition? thought this will also include stringent
>> copyrights and mandatory real open access policy. sadly it seems not so...
>
> Yeah, that is what happens if such a clear definition is missing.
> Reading your quote from the "mandate" does not surprise me, and if in
> 2020 everything must be Open Access in this way, we have merely waited
> 6 years...
>
> We have a lot of educating to do still....
>
> Egon
>
>
> --
> Dr E.L. Willighagen
> Postdoctoral Researcher
> Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT
> Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/)
> Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
> LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw
> Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/
> PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers
> ORCID: 0000-0001-7542-0286
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:50:05 +0100
> From: Ignasi Labastida i Juan <ilabastida at ub.edu>
> To: Egon Willighagen <egon.willighagen at gmail.com>
> Cc: "open-science at lists.okfn.org" <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [open-science] H2020 Open Access Guideline:
> Message-ID:
> <CADWO+RCxBZPNR52LGP=HsmmDzDOwAinJv4Hny9TgnPkmRkshtw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> In page 2 there is a definition of open access:
> "Open access can be defined as the practice of providing on-line access to
> scientific information that is free of charge to the end-user and that is
> re-usable."
>
> However, the mandate or requirement of the Comission includes the "green
> road", that is not actually "open" because publishers limit the reuse
>
> That is a consequence of puting so many labels to the concept "open access"
> Currently we have green, golden, platinium... and in my opinion we have
> lost the real definition or the ultimate goal.
>
>
> 2014-01-31 Egon Willighagen <egon.willighagen at gmail.com>:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Stefan Kasberger
>> <mail at stefankasberger.at> wrote:
>>> do I get something wrong, or was the open access thing all the time not
>>> compliant with the opendefinition? thought this will also include
>> stringent
>>> copyrights and mandatory real open access policy. sadly it seems not
>> so...
>>
>> Yeah, that is what happens if such a clear definition is missing.
>> Reading your quote from the "mandate" does not surprise me, and if in
>> 2020 everything must be Open Access in this way, we have merely waited
>> 6 years...
>>
>> We have a lot of educating to do still....
>>
>> Egon
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr E.L. Willighagen
>> Postdoctoral Researcher
>> Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT
>> Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/)
>> Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
>> LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw
>> Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/
>> PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers
>> ORCID: 0000-0001-7542-0286
>> _______________________________________________
>> open-science mailing list
>> open-science at lists.okfn.org
>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-science
>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/open-science
>>
>>
>> Aquest correu electr?nic i els annexos poden contenir informaci?
>> confidencial o protegida legalment i est? adre?at exclusivament a la
>> persona o entitat destinat?ria. Si no sou el destinatari final o la persona
>> encarregada de rebre'l, no esteu autoritzat a llegir-lo, retenir-lo,
>> modificar-lo, distribuir-lo, copiar-lo ni a revelar-ne el contingut. Si heu
>> rebut aquest correu electr?nic per error, us preguem que n'informeu al
>> remitent i que elimineu del sistema el missatge i el material annex que
>> pugui contenir. Gr?cies per la vostra col?laboraci?.
>>
>> Este correo electr?nico y sus anexos pueden contener informaci?n
>> confidencial o legalmente protegida y est? exclusivamente dirigido a la
>> persona o entidad destinataria. Si usted no es el destinatario final o la
>> persona encargada de recibirlo, no est? autorizado a leerlo, retenerlo,
>> modificarlo, distribuirlo, copiarlo ni a revelar su contenido. Si ha
>> recibido este mensaje electr?nico por error, le rogamos que informe al
>> remitente y elimine del sistema el mensaje y el material anexo que pueda
>> contener. Gracias por su colaboraci?n.
>>
>> This email message and any documents attached to it may contain
>> confidential or legally protected material and are intended solely for the
>> use of the individual or organization to whom they are addressed. We remind
>> you that if you are not the intended recipient of this email message or the
>> person responsible for processing it, then you are not authorized to read,
>> save, modify, send, copy or disclose any of its contents. If you have
>> received this email message by mistake, we kindly ask you to inform the
>> sender of this and to eliminate both the message and any attachments it
>> carries from your account. Thank you for your collaboration.
>>
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <https://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/open-science/attachments/20140131/a028a8dc/attachment-0001.html>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:00:28 +0100
> From: Egon Willighagen <egon.willighagen at gmail.com>
> To: Ignasi Labastida i Juan <ilabastida at ub.edu>
> Cc: "open-science at lists.okfn.org" <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [open-science] H2020 Open Access Guideline:
> Message-ID:
> <CAMPqvY-ms6=WSNZwqK-8cFsG0Fx1Smqt=KMLjAA2Yomxxev=Pw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Ignasi Labastida i Juan
> <ilabastida at ub.edu> wrote:
>> That is a consequence of puting so many labels to the concept "open access"
>> Currently we have green, golden, platinium... and in my opinion we have lost
>> the real definition or the ultimate goal.
>
> Quite so. What matter is basically just these user rights:
>
> - redistribution
> - modification
> - sell it
>
> It's really not that hard, but still too many people can mess it up.
> The "sell it" is bascially the omission of NC clauses, which have an
> unclear legal status. Is a private university that sells education
> (high education fees) commercial or not?
>
> Egon
>
> --
> Dr E.L. Willighagen
> Postdoctoral Researcher
> Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT
> Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/)
> Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
> LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw
> Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/
> PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers
> ORCID: 0000-0001-7542-0286
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 06:30:06 -0200
> From: Raniere Silva <raniere at riseup.net>
> To: open-science at lists.okfn.org
> Subject: Re: [open-science] Open Science WG 2014 - Tasks and Team!
> Message-ID: <20140131083005.GE25351 at buriti>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi,
>
> sorry for the delay, but two weeks ago I already get in touch with Sophie Kay to
> starting translate her amazing course into portuguese. I didn't start yet due
> technical problems.
>
> Please let me know the news related to the Open Science Training so I can help.
>
> Raniere
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:57:31 +0000
> From: Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>
> To: Egon Willighagen <egon.willighagen at gmail.com>
> Cc: "open-science at lists.okfn.org" <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [open-science] H2020 Open Access Guideline:
> Message-ID:
> <CAD2k14N0XXGgmWogLKrxpjs+Jy4i53cJKxhsYYMAEu1k0Sd94Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> OKFN has good relations with EC staff, I am not sure whether we have
> formally communicated this issue to them. On "Open-Access" (Licences for
> Europe) we have been fighting a battle to be allowed to mine content
> without explictly requesting permissions (The right to read is the right to
> Mine). This was bitterly contested by publishers. The current position is
> that the proposed "licence" approach will not go forward (good) and that we
> shall need to find another way. I think any careful submissions on this
> will carry weight with the Commission.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Egon Willighagen <
> egon.willighagen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Ignasi Labastida i Juan
>> <ilabastida at ub.edu> wrote:
>>> That is a consequence of puting so many labels to the concept "open
>> access"
>>> Currently we have green, golden, platinium... and in my opinion we have
>> lost
>>> the real definition or the ultimate goal.
>>
>> Quite so. What matter is basically just these user rights:
>>
>> - redistribution
>> - modification
>> - sell it
>>
>> It's really not that hard, but still too many people can mess it up.
>> The "sell it" is bascially the omission of NC clauses, which have an
>> unclear legal status. Is a private university that sells education
>> (high education fees) commercial or not?
>>
>> Egon
>>
>> --
>> Dr E.L. Willighagen
>> Postdoctoral Researcher
>> Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT
>> Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/)
>> Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
>> LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw
>> Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/
>> PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers
>> ORCID: 0000-0001-7542-0286
>> _______________________________________________
>> open-science mailing list
>> open-science at lists.okfn.org
>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-science
>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/open-science
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Murray-Rust
> Reader in Molecular Informatics
> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> University of Cambridge
> CB2 1EW, UK
> +44-1223-763069
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <https://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/open-science/attachments/20140131/82c648d2/attachment-0001.html>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:04:12 +0000
> From: Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>
> To: open-science <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [open-science] Open Science WG 2014 - Tasks and Team!
> Message-ID:
> <CAD2k14P7CnGP2Vea_eW=JjNJBZ1BkkBBTz23J+yPJyZ7BpyRVw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> May be related. The OKFN is having an Editathon in a week to improve the
> OKF wiki. This could be an opportunity for us to attend to the Science
> pages. There's an Etherpad at:
>
> http://pad.okfn.org/p/okfwiki
>
> I have signed up.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Raniere Silva <raniere at riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> sorry for the delay, but two weeks ago I already get in touch with Sophie
>> Kay to
>> starting translate her amazing course into portuguese. I didn't start yet
>> due
>> technical problems.
>>
>> Please let me know the news related to the Open Science Training so I can
>> help.
>>
>> Raniere
>> _______________________________________________
>> open-science mailing list
>> open-science at lists.okfn.org
>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-science
>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/open-science
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Murray-Rust
> Reader in Molecular Informatics
> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> University of Cambridge
> CB2 1EW, UK
> +44-1223-763069
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <https://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/open-science/attachments/20140131/c9c201d1/attachment-0001.html>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
> _______________________________________________
> open-science mailing list
> open-science at lists.okfn.org
> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-science
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/optionss/open-science
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of open-science Digest, Vol 423, Issue 1
> ********************************************
More information about the open-science
mailing list