[open-science] [Open-access] Elsevier: some facts, by Tim Gowers

Fri May 2 11:02:13 UTC 2014

And by TMR I meant TPM - I am conflating TPM and PMR! :)

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Fabiana Kubke <mf.kubke at gmail.com> wrote:

> New zealand does not have fair use - it has fair dealing. Fair use in the
> US (and I think Canada) allow I think for 10% reproduction of copyrighted
> material for "fair use".
>
> The way this was explained to me by my copyright officer is that for at
> least some works the education provisions of the copyright act are below
> the 10% reproduction allowed by fair use so we pay to get the 10%
> allowance.
>
> When libraries buy serial subscriptions (or textbooks), sometimes the
> contracts have included the reuse of the material for educational purposes
> (eg in students lecture notes, class slides etc). Some material we purchase
> does not include this allowance.
>
> The university purchases several licences, to the movie industry, the
> recording industry and the copyright body (I think equivalent to the
> Clearing House in the US and Canada) that extends the allowance for
> reproduction for educational use - in essence letting us reach (legally)
> the 10% (which ouf course US already has through fair use!)
>
> If I estimate correctly the UoAuckland would be paying somewhere between
> 1-2 M NZD p.a. for that privilege. We are lucky that our copyright law has
> other useful allowances (Like breaking TMR for legal purposes) which saves
> us a lot of money, althought he TransPacific Partnership agreement may
> change that . BUt that is a diff story :)
>
> Hope that clarifies
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Tom Olijhoek <tom.olijhoek at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
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>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Fabiana Kubke <mf.kubke at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am a bit late to the discussion - but if anyone is interested there
>>>> is interesting data on library expenditures in New Zealand and Australia
>>>> here http://statistics.caul.edu.au/inst_data.php
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're not late... :-) this is very welcome.
>>>
>>>
>>>>  If I read hte data correctly, New Zealand spends about 50 million p.a.
>>>> (NZ Dollars) in serial subscriptions. This does not include the copyright
>>>> licencing fees that allow the reuse for education (as far as I understand).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Can you expand on the re-use fees? This is an additional cost to
>>> subscriptions. Re-use payments are at least as problematic as
>>> subscriptions. But even harder to get a handle on. (?more FOIs?)
>>>
>>> I would think that copyright law always includes fair use policy which
>> applies especially to use for educational purposes?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
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M Fabiana Kubke
Chair Advisory Panel Creative Commons Aotearoa New
Zealand<http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/>
Department of Anatomy | University of Auckland | New Zealand
(+64) 9 373-7599 Ext 86002 | (+64)9 923 6002 (direct) | Mobile: (+64) 210
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