[open-science] [Open-access] Elsevier: some facts, by Tim Gowers

[Peter Murray-Rust]

I think re-use data will be very difficult to FOI. When I asked some
universities for restrictive clauses they said "we have lots of departments
and it is too expensive to ask them all". I'd guess that a substantial
amount of re-use payments were through departments - it will depend on how
centralised the universities are.

Note that re-use rights also occur through CCC which offers the e-payment
web site RightsLink. The bills here can be huge - I have no idea whether
many people pay them. Find your favourite TA publisher, and click on reuse
rights on the HTML landing page and simulate being an educator in the form.

P.



On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Stuart Lawson <stuart.a.lawson at gmail.com>wrote:

> Yes I'm keeping it as up to date as I can. It's for my job so I can't open
> up editing rights, but anyone who has that link can view it.
>
>
> On 2 May 2014 14:51, P Kishor <punk.kish at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Awesome! is this spreadsheet being kept up to date by you Stuart? I am
>> going to also assume I can share this widely. Let me know if I am wrong in
>> that assumption.
>>
>> Would be really nice to get NPG's numbers (even if estimates) and in
>> fact, of entire Macmillan.
>>
>> Other random, quick observations. Profit margins don't seem to be
>> correlated with evilness. One of the most reviled publishers (at least from
>> "n" of 1) has a very slim margin. Two very respected publishers have
>> reasonable to low margins, etc.
>>
>> Many thanks again.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Stuart Lawson <stuart.a.lawson at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Nature Publishing Group don't publish their financial results. for those
>>> that do, see:
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al2yRSSAaU2vdHBKQ3pMUXNUeXZGVnB2dG1Cakp4X0E&usp=drive_web#gid=2
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 May 2014 14:40, P Kishor <punk.kish at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Scott, others,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 6:33 AM, S.C. Edmunds <
>>>> scott at gigasciencejournal.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If Tom is compiling the per country comparisons
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Per country comparisons are great, but is there a way to find out
>>>> profit margins and expenses for other publishers such as Science, Nature,
>>>> well, all others, as well? Is there a canonical resource for such data?
>>>>
>>>>
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