[open-sustainability] AMEE data licensing

[James Smith]

Rough list of the major datasets included: http://discover.amee.com/categories/Primary_Data_and_Methodologies_Represented_in_AMEE

I suspect that most of them aren't openly licensed, though other ex-colleagues could probably be more authoritative on this than me. Hopefully we'll hear from them here soon, I've told them about our conversation. 

cheers,
James


On Monday, 26 November 2012 at 15:31, Jonathan Gray wrote:

> (Forking thread as there are two separate discussions to be had: (i) call for help maintaining AMEE data and (ii) licensing of AMEE data!)
> 
> Re: (ii) if we can establish which bits of AMEE are openly licensed, then that will do a lot to help sign off more official support for (i) from OKFN. 
> 
> I guess the most obvious question is: is there a list of sources that AMEE has its data from? If we can work this out, then we should be able to figure out which bits AMEE is able to say are open and which bits it can't! 
> 
> J.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:21 PM, James Smith <james at floppy.org.uk (mailto:james at floppy.org.uk)> wrote:
> > That's the interesting part. AMEE was always a republisher of other people's datasets, and I'm not sure where that puts the legal situation. Combine that with the fact that the internal representations of the datasets have been released under the MIT license, and I'm *really* not sure.
> > 
> > I'd love someone who knows the ins and outs of open data licensing to try to work it out, because now that the data is accessible outside the company, making it properly Open would be awesome. 
> > 
> > cheers,
> > James
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday, 26 November 2012 at 15:12, Jonathan Gray wrote:
> > 
> > > Amazing! Is the data (or some portion of it) openly licensed?
> > > 
> > > J.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:51 PM, James Smith <james at floppy.org.uk (mailto:james at floppy.org.uk)> wrote:
> > > > Hey guys, 
> > > > 
> > > > You all know AMEE, the platform for running carbon calculation methodologies. It was a great thing, and had a good run, but I suspect that it's winding down and the data is not being maintained as much as it should. It was never an Open project, and suffered from not getting submissions of new data from the outside, but I still think it's a very useful resource to have around. 
> > > > 
> > > > AMEE have now open sourced their datasets at https://github.com/AMEE/datasets, and ex-employees have defined a better open standard for executable data (https://github.com/spatchcock/calcJSON), and a conversion tool to go from one to the other (https://github.com/Floppy/connery). 
> > > > 
> > > > The nice thing is that the calcJSON format means you don't need an API platform to use the data, so it makes it possible for a voluntary effort to take over the AMEE data and maintain it in an open way just using github, and extend it to include other datasets that it never had before. 
> > > > 
> > > > I'd love to find a way to make this happen, as the resource that's there is too good to stay locked up and slowly dying. Anyone interested, and more importantly, able to put in any time? 
> > > > 
> > > > cheers,
> > > > James
> > > > 
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