[open-sustainability] AMEE data licensing

Mon Nov 26 15:53:29 UTC 2012

Hi guys,

I'm a current employee of AMEE.

I'm checking internally about a few of the licenses this week, and once I
can provide more clarity.

I'd be happy to have a convo about how best to go about doing this best, as
I expect when the company was aggregating this data from all these sources,
working out how to republish it under an open licence wasn't the main
priority, and speaking to others about how they've gone about relicensing
data (not code) like this would be extremely handy.

But in terms of intentions - we're now keen to have this data licensed as
permissively as the law will allow us to do so.

C

On 26 November 2012 15:36, James Smith <james at floppy.org.uk> wrote:

> Rough list of the major datasets included:
> http://discover.amee.com/categories/Primary_Data_and_Methodologies_Represented_in_AMEE
>
> I suspect that most of them aren't openly licensed, though other
> ex-colleagues could probably be more authoritative on this than me.
> Hopefully we'll hear from them here soon, I've told them about our
> conversation.
>
> cheers,
> James
>
> On Monday, 26 November 2012 at 15:31, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>
> (Forking thread as there are two separate discussions to be had: (i) call
> for help maintaining AMEE data and (ii) licensing of AMEE data!)
>
> Re: (ii) if we can establish which bits of AMEE are openly licensed, then
> that will do a lot to help sign off more official support for (i) from OKFN.
>
> I guess the most obvious question is: is there a list of sources that AMEE
> has its data from? If we can work this out, then we should be able to
> figure out which bits AMEE is able to say are open and which bits it can't!
>
> J.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:21 PM, James Smith <james at floppy.org.uk> wrote:
>
> That's the interesting part. AMEE was always a republisher of other
> people's datasets, and I'm not sure where that puts the legal situation.
> Combine that with the fact that the internal representations of the
> datasets have been released under the MIT license, and I'm *really* not
> sure.
>
> I'd love someone who knows the ins and outs of open data licensing to try
> to work it out, because now that the data is accessible outside the
> company, making it properly Open would be awesome.
>
> cheers,
> James
>
> On Monday, 26 November 2012 at 15:12, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>
> Amazing! Is the data (or some portion of it) openly licensed?
>
> J.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:51 PM, James Smith <james at floppy.org.uk> wrote:
>
>  Hey guys,
>
> You all know AMEE, the platform for running carbon calculation
> methodologies. It was a great thing, and had a good run, but I suspect that
> it's winding down and the data is not being maintained as much as it
> should. It was never an Open project, and suffered from not getting
> submissions of new data from the outside, but I still think it's a very
> useful resource to have around.
>
> AMEE have now open sourced their datasets at
> https://github.com/AMEE/datasets, and ex-employees have defined a better
> open standard for executable data (https://github.com/spatchcock/calcJSON),
> and a conversion tool to go from one to the other (
> https://github.com/Floppy/connery).
>
> The nice thing is that the calcJSON format means you don't need an API
> platform to use the data, so it makes it possible for a voluntary effort to
> take over the AMEE data and maintain it in an open way just using github,
> and extend it to include other datasets that it never had before.
>
> I'd love to find a way to make this happen, as the resource that's there
> is too good to stay locked up and slowly dying. Anyone interested, and more
> importantly, able to put in any time?
>
> cheers,
> James
>
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