[Open-transport] DATEX II

Fri Mar 28 11:45:29 UTC 2014

Hello Peter,

We in Bristol are interested in DATEX II format for outputting transport data from control room.

Finding a way to expose the data is a project I am working on over the next year.

We have a control room which is able to output certain channels as DATEXII but as yet I don't have a server/ software to publish them. On the list of many things I need to do are:

1) agree which feeds to expose
2) agree ontology for feeds
3) set up a server which can publish them
4) advertise/ catalogue them so they are used

As you know I've been very interested in Network Rails open format and am thinking along similar lines.

I'm still thinking about whether best format is raw feed, summarised feed or API. I suspect it will end up being all of the above depending who is using data.

We have a number of projects which will help us with this but I'd be very happy to have an offline chat about how we can work on this.

Regards,

Matthew

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:54:13 +0000
From: Peter Hicks <peter.hicks at poggs.co.uk>
To: open-transport <open-transport at lists.okfn.org>
Subject: [Open-transport] DATEX II
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All,

Is anyone here working with DATEX II to distribute and analyse road data?  I?m starting a project (actually resurrecting an old project) to visualise road data as well as railway data.

I will catalogue any public DATEX II providers? data on datahub.io.

Peter

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:56:57 +0100
From: Stefan de Konink <stefan at konink.de>
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On Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:54:13 PM CEST, Peter Hicks wrote:
> All,
>
> Is anyone here working with DATEX II to distribute and analyse road 
> data?  I?m starting a project (actually resurrecting an old
> project) to visualise road data as well as railway data.
>
> I will catalogue any public DATEX II providers? data on datahub.io.

My sponsoring hoster is actually doing this commercially. Even a DATEX II producer, are you looking into working to map DATEX and OpenLBS to OpenStreetMap segments?

Stefan

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:59:25 +0100
From: Thomas <thomaskoch at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Open-transport] DATEX II
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The Dutch road authority publishes DATEXII [1] for 6300 kilometers of road, unfortunately the page and documentation is only available in Dutch. One project working with that data that got some significant media attention was a slippy map <http://www.bestwelsnel.nl/> indicating where people were speeding.

[1]http://www.ndw.nu/pagina/nl/4/databank/31/actuele_verkeersgegevens/

Kind regards,

Thomas Koch

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Peter Hicks <peter.hicks at poggs.co.uk>wrote:

> All,
>
> Is anyone here working with DATEX II to distribute and analyse road data?
>  I'm starting a project (actually resurrecting an old project) to 
> visualise road data as well as railway data.
>
> I will catalogue any public DATEX II providers' data on datahub.io.
>
>
> Peter
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:17:54 +0000
From: Peter Hicks <peter.hicks at poggs.co.uk>
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On 27 Mar 2014, at 12:56, Stefan de Konink <stefan at konink.de> wrote:

> My sponsoring hoster is actually doing this commercially. Even a DATEX II producer, are you looking into working to map DATEX and OpenLBS to OpenStreetMap segments?

I?m not sure yet!  I am working to break down the format in to some class structures in Ruby so I can understand it better - and then put the data in to a geospatial database, then work out what I can do with it.

I?m only looking to consume DATEX II data - producing it looks much harder, and I don?t have a road network to play with.

Peter

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