[open-visualisation] Antw.: [open-energy] Carbon emissions data?

Jonathan Gray jonathan.gray at okfn.org
Wed Dec 7 11:14:47 UTC 2011

Cool! No I hadn't seen this before.

Added this to TheDataHub.org here:


And started a new group for carbon emissions data here:


Dirk: do you have any other ideas for data we could use?

All the best,


On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Gregor Aisch <gka at vis4.net> wrote:
> Did you guys all see the CO2 supply chain data? We really should do
> something with it...
> http://supplychainco2.stanford.edu/
> "Nations report and assume responsibility for carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions
> from fossil fuels that are burned within their sovereign terrritory.
> However, both fossil fuels and consumer goods manufactured with fossil
> energy are commonly transported internationally.
> In this way, nations where fossil fuel resources are extracted or where the
> goods made with fossil energy are consumed may benefit from (and yet
> disclaim) emissions that occur elsewhere."
> ----- Reply message -----
> Von: "Dirk Heine" <dirk.heine at emle.eu>
> An: "Open Energy Visualization and Data project"
> <open-energy at lists.okfn.org>
> Cc: "open visualistion" <open-visualisation at lists.okfn.org>
> Betreff: [open-energy] Carbon emissions data?
> Datum: Mi., Dez. 7, 2011 03:18
> I think this is a great idea. And I think it is also pretty relevant,
> because:
> In discussions with people on climate change, on often hears the following
> two types of statements:
> "Do your bit for the environment!" OR "Every bit helps!"
> "I already do my part against climate change. It is true that I have not
> switched to renewable energy but I switch my light off when I leave the room
> and I use jute bags for shopping." OR "It is true that I like flying a lot
> but I do not use a car".
> A visualisation might potentially address the following:
> To 1: It put into relation the amount that a typical consumer emits in
> excess of the per-capita amount that is sustainable with all these small
> actions. So it could for example show that I as a French person emit about 7
> tonnes while about 1 tonne would be sustainable (so I am 6 tonnes
> overweight) while all these small actions where one often says "every bit
> helps" contribute only a few grams to reducing my carbon bottomline (or
> "obesity" or whatever one might call it). The app could thus help people
> comprehend that not "Every bit helps" but "Every BIG helps".
> To 2: If a consumer has learned the first message, he might be interested in
> how things then measure up. And visually it might be nice to learn then that
> switching off the light is really nothing but a gesture and that even
> completely avoiding to drive around with my middle-class car for a year
> would still be completely offset by a single roundtrip flight of me from
> Paris to Rio (2.2 times). I.e. this app could help one find out what really
> helps.
> So the user could take home the nice message: It really does not matter at
> all how many plastic bags I consume, I should not even think about it, but
> what really matters is X.
> IN SHORT: A visualisation such as what you seem to suggest could help one
> both realise that big, not small, steps are needed and to identify which
> actions have real leverage.
> I would definitely be interested in contributing.
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
> wrote:
>> This is interesting:
>> http://www.visualizing.org/visualizations/how-much-co2-created
>> Makes me wonder whether we could do something similar using bubbles to
>> indicate relative quantities of different things?
>> I'd love to be able to explore this by having a playful interface to
>> show rough equivalencies. E.g. a 100km car journey is equivalent to
>> boiling a kettle X times, etc.
>> --
>> Jonathan Gray
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