[openbiblio-dev] BibSoup in AnimalGarden

Mon Dec 19 21:21:53 UTC 2011

BNB will only be books. I've seen that CrossRef [1] and DataCite [2]  
provide bibliographic data based on DOIs. Any chance of using those?

kc

[1]  
http://www.crossref.org/CrossTech/2011/04/content_negotiation_for_crossr.html
[2] http://data.datacite.org/

Quoting Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>:

> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Jim Pitman <pitman at stat.berkeley.edu>wrote:
>
>> Very nice Peter!
>>
>> A question raised by this presentation is whether we expect bib data
>> creators
>> to be making JSON entries by hand, e.g. in a general purpose text editor
>> (from my experience,
>> a bad idea: too easy to make data invalid by a single keystroke) and if
>> not in a general
>> text editor, with what editing tool?
>>
>
> Is there a tool that does this? If so I will portray it. I completely
> accept your points and this is an alpha version. I wanted to edit some
> myself last night - tried to get a JSON plugin for Eclipse and after 3-4
> hours gave up.
>
>>
>> I think we will make the most progress in getting people to accept BibJSON
>> if
>> we demonstrate that just about however they enter their data, be it in a
>> spreadsheet or
>> a structured text file format of their own choosing, as long as it is
>> decently structured we can
>> map the data by machine to BibJSON, and the value of this can be
>> demonstrated by various interoperable
>> and aggregatable BibJSON based web services.
>>
>
> Completely agreed. I am happy to claim almost infinite magic for the
> BibSoup in the video, but we need some reality. I want to suggest that
> BibSoup and BibServer can:
> * look up books and articles in existing compilations. (We should be able
> to do this with British National Bibliography - I assume most Penguin books
> will be in it?)
> * resolve ISBNs against a Bibliography (again I would use the BNB)
> * allow us to annotate the BibSoup with local details (e.g. where the book
> is)
> * allow us to map local identifiers (i.e. OWL's id vs Penguin's id)
> * look up books by publisher, date, author (e.g. all Penguins published in
> 1991). I had a friend who used to collect first editions of Penguin crime
> (green covers).
>
> This is likely to British to start with as we have the BNB and I can use
> simple examples. That's then an incentive for people to get other
> bibliographies into this.
>
>
>>
>> So I wonder how to express this idea your creative medium?
>>
>
> I'll talk with Mark this evening about the technology
>
>>
>> --Jim
>>
>> > The animals have made a brief slide/video explaining the basic principles
>> > of BibSoup: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6280676/bibsoup1.wmv
>> > It's a bit of fun but also an attempt to get across the basic idea (The
>> > TeXBook and LaTeX made considerable use of animals).
>> > I have also made a short movie explaining how to create BibJSON and I
>> would
>> > see future snippets about how to create entries, translate from legacy,
>> > deal with disambiguation, etc.
>> >
>> > There are bugs (a missing comma, and a spelling mistake). Please point
>> out
>> > others
>> >
>> > --
>> > Peter Murray-Rust
>> > Reader in Molecular Informatics
>> > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
>> > University of Cambridge
>> > CB2 1EW, UK
>> > +44-1223-763069
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Murray-Rust
> Reader in Molecular Informatics
> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> University of Cambridge
> CB2 1EW, UK
> +44-1223-763069
>

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