[openbiblio-dev] BibSoup in AnimalGarden

Mon Dec 19 22:26:42 UTC 2011

Mark, I have citations in Zotero. If you tell me what format(s) you  
want to experiment with I will export some data for you.

kc

Quoting Mark MacGillivray <mark at odaesa.com>:

> Having just talked briefly to Peter, I have offered to put up a
> version of bibserver that allows edit of entries. I have some code
> that enables this, although it is requires a bit of knowledge of
> nested structures. I will try to alter this so that it gives hints at
> what you might want to be putting in a record.
>
> We have also discussed with Tom and Thad about using google refine to
> edit collections, and this sounds promising. I will get an instance of
> refine up that we can try working with to edit collections too.
>
> Given the imminence of christmas, and an all-day meeting I have to
> attend tomorrow, these will probably not be up this week. However, I
> will let you all know as soon as they are available, and some feedback
> on the create / edit process would be great.
>
> For now, maintaining a collection off-site e.g. as a bibtex file or
> using tools like zotero etc is still a viable option, and you can
> simply refresh any bibserver collection with an updated source file.
>
> @PT - you are quite into Zotero - could you point me at a good example
> zotero collection / endpoint from which I could write a quick import
> to bibserver (the JSON CSL, if available, could probably be quickly
> ingested or mapped) ?
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Jim Pitman <pitman at stat.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>> Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> > There are many tools for editing BibTeX or logical equivalent, which is
>>> > largely adequate as a
>>> > BibJSON substrate. e.g. Zotero, Mendeley, BibSonomy, BibDesk, JabRef, ...
>>> > Any of these could be used to edit a collection and then publish it to
>>> > BibSoup. We should
>>> > as soon as possible support proper between the native SQLite  
>>> files used by
>>> > Zotero and Mendeley and BibJSON.
>>
>>> Do these require the user to know BibTeX?
>> No
>>
>>> Or do they have schema-driven GUIs?
>> Yes.
>>
>>> If the latter then we can presumably have an import on the server.
>> It is the latter, and such an import is what I am advocating.  
>> Zotero and Mendeley do not make it
>> easy to get at their sQLite, or to otherwise publicly export data,  
>> but we should find ways to do this.
>> It would help to have some Zotero and Mendeley users willing to  
>> experiment. An issue is that
>> a typical academic user usually does not want to expose all of  
>> their local biblio data, e.g. what they
>> are reading as part of their current research, so it is essential  
>> to find a way of publicly exporting suitably
>> tagged parts of the dataset kept in an app like  Z or M, and make  
>> it easy for users to manage privacy of their
>> biblio data collections. Hopefully, we can facilitate this by  
>> encouraging present biblio maintenance
>> systems to provide public BibJSON exports. We are a long way from  
>> being able to offer a personal biblio collection
>> app comparable to  M or Z, and I think we should avoid competing in  
>> that space, rather aim to
>> dominate the public biblio space by integration of data from  
>> whatever private maintenance platform.
>>
>> --Jim
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------
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>> University of California
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>>
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