[openbiblio-dev] Best practice for name format in BibJSON

Karen Coyle kcoyle at kcoyle.net
Sat Feb 25 14:33:16 UTC 2012

On 2/24/12 6:00 PM, Mark MacGillivray wrote:
> Clarifying the "id" field in author object:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Jim Pitman<pitman at stat.berkeley.edu>  wrote:
>>> Also, I notice that there is an "id:" element in the person name area. I
>>> presume that this could be used for ORCID or researcherID, etc. Will the
>>> type of ID be clear from the text? I don't know how people generally use
>>> these, and if they are full URNs or URIs or not.
> Karen - this is not quite right; the ID field in the author record
> here is an ID for that record.

This confuses me a bit. If this is an internal bibserver ID for the 
author record, how does the author record get that ID? If the ID is 
supplied by someone submitting data to bibjson, what guarantees that it 
is unique?

> It could be some other sort of ID in
> another system, but this one is specifically for use in identifying
> the record in question - so if you start to have multiple authors
> appearing in different records but actually they are the same author,
> you can assign them the same ID.

Who is "you" in this case? And does this mean that you will have more 
than one author record with the same ID? If so, how do you know that 
they represent the same author rather than the same ID used more than once?


> Identifiers from external systems are
> handled differently - described below.
>> Brings us to the basic issue of regularizing ids for whatever entities:
>> I think this needs a separate discussion and some collab doc space to develop
>> best practices for ids in BibJSON. I'd be glad to start a Google Doc on
>> this. Any volunteers to work on it?
> The identifiers in bibjson records are already described - on
> bibjson.org there is a bit about the "identifier" key. This key can be
> used within the top level of a record - e.g. listing identifiers about
> whatever the record is about - or it can be used within an author
> record (or anywhere else) - so we can list in here the various
> identifiers that an author may have on other systems. "identifier" is
> a list of objects, and the fields so far described at bibjson.org
> include "id", "type" and "url" - though of course, you can use others
> that you find useful. But by providing the ID, the type (which is
> obvious in some cases e.g. DOI and in others can be made up and
> consensus converged upon), and a relevant URL if there is one, we can
> make it clear what the identifier is for. Other info about it could
> easily be added in a "description" key.
> Mark
>> --Jim
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