[Openglam_members] Open Collections page - was Re: Doodle for next call
Marieke Guy
marieke.guy at okfn.org
Thu Feb 26 16:55:20 UTC 2015
Fab ideas Adam - especially the curator's choice one (we are making
efforts to incorperate it in ESpace work so this would be prefect).
Back in touch soon.
Marieke
On 26/02/2015 16:49, Adam Green wrote:
> Ah yes and another idea. We could somehow incorporate the Curator's
> Choice series: http://openglam.org/curators-choice/ . Perhaps as a
> unit on the homepage.
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Adam.
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> Adam Green
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> Editor-in-Chief, The Public Domain Review
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> @PublicDomainRev <https://twitter.com/PublicDomainRev>
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> On 26 February 2015 at 10:40, Adam Green
> <adam.green at publicdomainreview.org
> <mailto:adam.green at publicdomainreview.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi Marieke,
>
> This looks wonderful! Really coming together nicely. A few ideas I
> had:
>
> *1) Highlights / Examples *- I was wondering if it might be good
> to offer some kind of "highlights from the collection". One way
> this could work would be to link, where available, to works that
> have been featured on /The Public Domain Review, /e.g. National
> Library of Medicice:
> http://publicdomainreview.org/collections/?source=national-library-of-medicine/
> , or Rijksmuseum:
> http://publicdomainreview.org/collections/?source=rijksmuseum/
> This could be just a simple link at the bottom if the page, or
> something more advanced pulling in actual images to a gallery.
>
> I'd definitely also like to link back to the institution's Open
> Collections page from their relevant PDR pages (or indeed somehow
> merge the two?)
>
> *2) Sort or group by license* - I think it would also definitely
> be good to sort by license (i.e. PD or CC), this would help also
> to distinguish between these two different kinds of "opening up",
> not just simply lumping it together as all just "open".
>
> *3) More concrete categorisation* - It might also be interesting
> to enable exploration by theme beyond the just tags page, e.g.
> some more concrete categorisation, with perhaps its own special
> page to act as a portal - "Science and Medicine", "Medieval
> Manuscripts", "Sound", etc.
>
> Any other ideas for how you think the PDR might be able to help
> please let me know!
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Adam.
>
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> Adam Green
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> @PublicDomainRev <https://twitter.com/PublicDomainRev>
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> All the best,
>
>
> Adam.
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> Adam Green
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> On 26 February 2015 at 08:29, Marieke Guy <marieke.guy at okfn.org
> <mailto:marieke.guy at okfn.org>> wrote:
>
> So something like this:
> http://omeka.okfn.org/exhibits/show/exhibit/swiss-heritage
> (I've added 2 of the datasets)
>
> It might be worth thinking about if we want datasets as a
> separate item type?
>
> Marieke
>
>
> On 26/02/2015 13:13, Marieke Guy wrote:
>> Other option is to make an exhibit of them e.g.
>> http://omeka.okfn.org/exhibits/show/5_star/pd
>>
>> All still being tested so looks a little rough around the edges.
>>
>> Marieke
>>
>> On 26/02/2015 12:58, Marieke Guy wrote:
>>> Hi Beat,
>>>
>>> Could you clarify what you mean by reproduced. To run Omeka
>>> you need to have an instantiation on your server - is this
>>> what you would be after?
>>>
>>> We could quite easily pull your content into the current
>>> system - most of the metadata already fits - we could add
>>> contact as an extra field. It could then be filtered by
>>> country e.g here is a search for US collections
>>> <http://omeka.okfn.org/items/browse?search=&advanced[0][element_id]=53&advanced[0][type]=is+exactly&advanced[0][terms]=US&range=&collection=&type=&user=&tags=&public=&featured=&exhibit=&geolocation-address=&geolocation-latitude=46.818188&geolocation-longitude=8.227511999999933&geolocation-radius=&submit_search=Search+for+items>
>>> (all searches are contained in the url so this could be
>>> modified) or maybe by geographic address or radius. This
>>> seems relatively straightforward to do. Tags is another way
>>> we could do this.
>>>
>>> Do you have any of this info as a CSV file? I could have a
>>> go at importing it.
>>>
>>> Marieke
>>>
>>> On 26/02/2015 12:40, Estermann Beat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marieke,
>>>>
>>>> Could this be reproduced on the Open Collections platform?
>>>>
>>>> http://make.opendata.ch/wiki/data:glam_ch
>>>>
>>>> -Would all the information fit somehow in your data model?
>>>>
>>>> -Would it be possible to display only datasets for
>>>> Switzerland (or another subset?) – only via tags? Or can
>>>> you filter the display on any data field?
>>>>
>>>> I would like to turn this inventory into a permanent one
>>>> (right now it’s more something attached to the hackathon).
>>>>
>>>> The present solution is not really scaleable - Dokuwiki
>>>> sucks, and the presentation on one single page has its limits.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Beat
>>>>
>>>> *From:*openglam_members
>>>> [mailto:openglam_members-bounces at lists.okfn.org] *On Behalf
>>>> Of *Marieke Guy
>>>> *Sent:* Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 12:09
>>>> *To:* Joris Pekel
>>>> *Cc:* <openglam_members at lists.okfn.org>
>>>> <mailto:openglam_members at lists.okfn.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Openglam_members] Open Collections page -
>>>> was Re: Doodle for next call
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reviewing Joris, really useful.
>>>>
>>>> A few comments:
>>>>
>>>> * *Rights* - I agree that the star system doesn't work
>>>> but it would be nice to have a system in place that
>>>> lets us showcase the most open collections. I'm
>>>> currently trying out the exhibit option so this could
>>>> be a way to highlight great work. Definitely something
>>>> to be discussed in the call!
>>>> * *Tags* - Currently these can be managed pretty easily
>>>> within the system (batch editing, searching etc.). I'm
>>>> just looking into how we manage these when people
>>>> contribute items - there is a plugin for this - may
>>>> need some configuring. Probably the easiest way to go
>>>> forward would be to agree on a set of tags from the
>>>> start. These can be extended to but it would still
>>>> useful to have a list up front. Maybe something to
>>>> brainstorm in the call?
>>>> I'd like to suggest we add the following to the list as
>>>> they tie in with the Europeana Space pilots: TV,
>>>> Photography, Dance, Games, HybridPublishing, Museums
>>>> Some brief guidelines might be useful too e.g.
>>>> capitalised, content that doesn't fit into another
>>>> metadata box etc.
>>>> * *Accounts* - Still looking in to this - we seem to be
>>>> able to get people in but it's a bit messy. If people
>>>> want to look at the back end register (through the
>>>> contribute page) and then email me.
>>>>
>>>> I can't make the meeting on 4th so Lieke should be able to
>>>> support any discussions and pass feedback on. Agree that we
>>>> need to get the basics right first so will park the other
>>>> ideas for later.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to share more widely soon but think I'd prefer to
>>>> wait till we have some styling in place then people will
>>>> also be able to share their thoughts on how it looks too.
>>>> Hopefully not too long now!
>>>>
>>>> Any other comments hugely appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Marieke
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 26/02/2015 08:53, Joris Pekel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marieke, all
>>>>
>>>> wow great progress! I have made some comments inline.
>>>>
>>>> Oh and while we are at it. We will be having our next call
>>>> on the 4th of March at 17:00 CET
>>>> <http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=2747891,2643743,3451190,5391959&h=2747891&date=2015-2-26&sln=17-18>.
>>>> I'll send out the link 5 min beforehand. Speak then!
>>>>
>>>> Do you think btw it is worth it to send it out to the wider
>>>> list to ask for feedback Marieke?
>>>>
>>>> 2015-02-24 10:21 GMT+01:00 Marieke Guy
>>>> <marieke.guy at okfn.org <mailto:marieke.guy at okfn.org>>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I'm probably not going to be able to make the call as I'm
>>>> away most of next week but I wanted to update you on how
>>>> the Open Collections page is coming along.
>>>>
>>>> We now have a new site on a different server (the other was
>>>> a test server). There is quite a bit of content and I'm
>>>> just in discussions with our designer regarding the CSS and
>>>> styling (to align it with the rest of the OpenGLAM site).
>>>>
>>>> The site is currently at http://omeka.okfn.org/ it will be
>>>> moved to http://openglam.org/open-collections/ later on.
>>>>
>>>> Some areas I'd like help with:
>>>>
>>>> * We need to think about how we deal with rights. Should
>>>> this be by star ratings for PD content (e.g.
>>>> http://omeka.okfn.org/items/show/89) or is there
>>>> another approach? Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> I think stars for rights can be a bit problematic. I think
>>>> we should just mention the rights and link to a page that
>>>> explains them (PD Mark, CC BY etc.). Issue with stars is
>>>> that they don't mean so much. If you are a very open
>>>> institution, but you just don't happen to have that much
>>>> material that is in the PD, does that mean you get less
>>>> stars? A discussion we can have is what to do with material
>>>> that is in the PD, but licensed with a CC BY license for
>>>> example (Wellcome). Also, the 5 star system of Berners-Lee
>>>> is mostly applicable on metadata I think, not so much on
>>>> the content itself. If we look at the content with this
>>>> system I think hardly any of them would get 5 stars.
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * Any thoughts on the metadata we are collecting for
>>>> each item? Is there more you'd like to see? We can
>>>> use Dublin core
>>>> <http://omeka.org/codex/Working_with_Dublin_Core>
>>>> or make up our own fields
>>>>
>>>> I think DC is fine. Don't know if other people have thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> * I've started adding tags and you can browse these
>>>> from here
>>>> <http://omeka.okfn.org/items/tags?sort_field=name&sort_dir=a>
>>>> - any thoughts on the type of tags we can add
>>>>
>>>> Can we limit them and people contributing pick one? For
>>>> example 'castle' does not seem like the most useful one.
>>>> Architecture for example should be there I think. If people
>>>> are missing tags they can suggest and we can add. Not sure
>>>> if we should add countries as tags, what do people think?
>>>>
>>>> * What should go on the search page
>>>> <http://omeka.okfn.org/items/search> - is there
>>>> currently too much? Should we reduce it/
>>>> restructure it?
>>>>
>>>> I think the search only gets useful if there is really a
>>>> load of material up there, which is currently not the case.
>>>> Also, I recently heard at Europeana Tech some good talks
>>>> from people who are anti-search boxes. They don't guide the
>>>> user at all. I much prefer to do it with proper tagging so
>>>> people can browse by category.
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * We need to test the contribution
>>>> <http://omeka.okfn.org/contribution> page - anyone
>>>> like to have a go?
>>>>
>>>> I created an account but it says my pw is incorrect. If I
>>>> try to reset it gives an error..
>>>>
>>>> * Anyone technical care to have a look at the output
>>>> formats - see the bottom of a browse page (atom,
>>>> dcmes-xml, json, omeka-json, omeka-xml, rss2).
>>>> There is an API available too - note to myself to
>>>> look into this.
>>>> * It was suggested that we could provide information
>>>> about applications making use of these open GLAM
>>>> collections - any ideas on how this could be done?
>>>>
>>>> I suggest we do this in the second phase of development.
>>>> Let's get this right first.
>>>>
>>>> * Also suggested that we could provide a tracking
>>>> system showing which collections are also available
>>>> within Wikimedia Commons and/or Europeana, DPLA, or
>>>> similar - thoughts on doing this?
>>>>
>>>> I think setting up a tracking system is a bit too much work
>>>> atm. Perhaps we can add a field in the contributions page
>>>> where we ask 'Set available in Europeana? Yes/No and the
>>>> possibility to include the link.
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> Any other comments/suggestions more than welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Marieke
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Joris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23/02/2015 19:48, Joris Pekel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> February has nearly ended, which means time for our
>>>> next call.
>>>>
>>>> I have set up a Doodle here:
>>>> http://doodle.com/p82zf584ticaczyz
>>>>
>>>> Hope may of you can make it!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Joris
>>>>
>>>>
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