[Openglam_members] Open Collections page - was Re: Doodle for next call

Marieke Guy marieke.guy at okfn.org
Fri Feb 27 14:23:54 UTC 2015


Hi Adam,

Answers inline - hope they are clear.

On 26/02/2015 16:40, Adam Green wrote:
> Hi Marieke,
>
> This looks wonderful! Really coming together nicely. A few ideas I had:
>
> *1) Highlights / Examples *- I was wondering if it might be good to 
> offer some kind of "highlights from the collection". One way this 
> could work would be to link, where available, to works that have been 
> featured on /The Public Domain Review, /e.g. National Library of 
> Medicice: 
> http://publicdomainreview.org/collections/?source=national-library-of-medicine/ 
> , or Rijksmuseum: 
> http://publicdomainreview.org/collections/?source=rijksmuseum/  This 
> could be just a simple link at the bottom if the page, or something 
> more advanced pulling in actual images to a gallery.

An easy way to do this is to add a sentence to the description - 
http://omeka.okfn.org/items/show/93. Another option is to add a new 
field called something like 'Highlights'. What would people prefer?

I see that you can browse collections by source on your site 
http://publicdomainreview.org/collections/ - do you have any of this 
information in a spreadsheet? Name of collection, Url of collection, 
description, Url on PDR? If not we can still add it - just might take a 
little longer.

> I'd definitely also like to link back to the institution's Open 
> Collections page from their relevant PDR pages (or indeed somehow 
> merge the two?)

And linking back would be great too.

We should definitely think more strategically about how we could link 
the 2 sites together in the future.

>
> *2) Sort or group by license* - I think it would also definitely be 
> good to sort by license (i.e. PD or CC), this would help also to 
> distinguish between these two different kinds of "opening up", not 
> just simply lumping it together as all just "open".

We have a rights field, it is currently free text. I am hoping to 
install a controlled vocabulary plugin (just waiting on systems to 
approve) - we could possibly use it here - though there are occasions 
when complications require explanation. We are also starting to think 
about ratings ("these are open collections but some are more open than 
others") - again something for the group to discuss. I'd also like to 
use the exhibit feature to highlight "awesomely open collections" ;-)
>
> *3) More concrete categorisation* - It might also be interesting to 
> enable exploration by theme beyond the just tags page, e.g. some more 
> concrete categorisation, with perhaps its own special page to act as a 
> portal - "Science and Medicine", "Medieval Manuscripts", "Sound", etc.
>
Possibly another opportunity for exhibits. Any ideas on themes would be 
great. Using existing categorisations (from PDR or elsewhere) is a 
possibility.

(Your other comment) Ah yes and another idea. We could somehow 
incorporate the Curator's Choice series: 
http://openglam.org/curators-choice/ . Perhaps as a unit on the homepage.

Another great idea. I can definitely see this as a feature box on the 
home page. I'll check this with our designer.
>  Any other ideas for how you think the PDR might be able to help 
> please let me know!

It would be great to chat more about how the PDR and Open Collections 
Page can work together if you have time. I am away on and off for the 
next two weeks but are you free week of 16th March maybe we could have a 
call? We could pick a time that you, Lieke and I could attend and then 
open it up to any other members of the working group who might want to 
contribute.

Thanks

Marieke

>
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Adam.
>
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> Adam Green
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> All the best,
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>
> Adam.
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> Adam Green
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> On 26 February 2015 at 08:29, Marieke Guy <marieke.guy at okfn.org 
> <mailto:marieke.guy at okfn.org>> wrote:
>
>     So something like this:
>     http://omeka.okfn.org/exhibits/show/exhibit/swiss-heritage (I've
>     added 2 of the datasets)
>
>     It might be worth thinking about if we want datasets as a separate
>     item type?
>
>     Marieke
>
>
>     On 26/02/2015 13:13, Marieke Guy wrote:
>>     Other option is to make an exhibit of them e.g.
>>     http://omeka.okfn.org/exhibits/show/5_star/pd
>>
>>     All still being tested so looks a little rough around the edges.
>>
>>     Marieke
>>
>>     On 26/02/2015 12:58, Marieke Guy wrote:
>>>     Hi Beat,
>>>
>>>     Could you clarify what you mean by reproduced. To run Omeka you
>>>     need to have an instantiation on your server - is this what you
>>>     would be after?
>>>
>>>     We could quite easily pull your content into the current system
>>>     - most of the metadata already fits - we could add contact as an
>>>     extra field. It could then be filtered by country e.g here is a
>>>     search for US collections
>>>     <http://omeka.okfn.org/items/browse?search=&advanced[0][element_id]=53&advanced[0][type]=is+exactly&advanced[0][terms]=US&range=&collection=&type=&user=&tags=&public=&featured=&exhibit=&geolocation-address=&geolocation-latitude=46.818188&geolocation-longitude=8.227511999999933&geolocation-radius=&submit_search=Search+for+items>
>>>     (all searches are contained in the url so this could be
>>>     modified) or maybe by geographic address or radius. This seems
>>>     relatively straightforward to do. Tags is another way we could
>>>     do this.
>>>
>>>     Do you have any of this info as a CSV file? I could have a go at
>>>     importing it.
>>>
>>>     Marieke
>>>
>>>     On 26/02/2015 12:40, Estermann Beat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Marieke,
>>>>
>>>>     Could this be reproduced on the Open Collections platform?
>>>>
>>>>     http://make.opendata.ch/wiki/data:glam_ch
>>>>
>>>>     -Would all the information fit somehow in your data model?
>>>>
>>>>     -Would it be possible to display only datasets for Switzerland
>>>>     (or another subset?) – only via tags? Or can you filter the
>>>>     display on any data field?
>>>>
>>>>     I would like to turn this inventory into a permanent one (right
>>>>     now it’s more something attached to the hackathon).
>>>>
>>>>     The present solution is not really scaleable - Dokuwiki sucks,
>>>>     and the presentation on one single page has its limits.
>>>>
>>>>     Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>     Beat
>>>>
>>>>     *From:*openglam_members
>>>>     [mailto:openglam_members-bounces at lists.okfn.org] *On Behalf Of
>>>>     *Marieke Guy
>>>>     *Sent:* Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 12:09
>>>>     *To:* Joris Pekel
>>>>     *Cc:* <openglam_members at lists.okfn.org>
>>>>     <mailto:openglam_members at lists.okfn.org>
>>>>     *Subject:* Re: [Openglam_members] Open Collections page - was
>>>>     Re: Doodle for next call
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks for reviewing Joris, really useful.
>>>>
>>>>     A few comments:
>>>>
>>>>       * *Rights* - I agree that the star system doesn't work but it
>>>>         would be nice to have a system in place that lets us
>>>>         showcase the most open collections. I'm currently trying
>>>>         out the exhibit option so this could be a way to highlight
>>>>         great work. Definitely something to be discussed in the call!
>>>>       * *Tags* - Currently these can be managed pretty easily
>>>>         within the system (batch editing, searching etc.). I'm just
>>>>         looking into how we manage these when people contribute
>>>>         items - there is a plugin for this - may need some
>>>>         configuring. Probably the easiest way to go forward would
>>>>         be to agree on a set of tags from the start. These can be
>>>>         extended to but it would still useful to have a list up
>>>>         front. Maybe something to brainstorm in the call?
>>>>         I'd like to suggest we add the following to the list as
>>>>         they tie in with the Europeana Space pilots: TV,
>>>>         Photography, Dance, Games, HybridPublishing, Museums
>>>>         Some brief guidelines might be useful too e.g. capitalised,
>>>>         content that doesn't fit into another metadata box etc.
>>>>       * *Accounts* - Still looking in to this - we seem to be able
>>>>         to get people in but it's a bit messy. If people want to
>>>>         look at the back end register (through the contribute page)
>>>>         and then email me.
>>>>
>>>>     I can't make the meeting on 4th so Lieke should be able to
>>>>     support any discussions and pass feedback on. Agree that we
>>>>     need to get the basics right first so will park the other ideas
>>>>     for later.
>>>>
>>>>     I'd like to share more widely soon but think I'd prefer to wait
>>>>     till we have some styling in place then people will also be
>>>>     able to share their thoughts on how it looks too. Hopefully not
>>>>     too long now!
>>>>
>>>>     Any other comments hugely appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>     Marieke
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 26/02/2015 08:53, Joris Pekel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Marieke, all
>>>>
>>>>     wow great progress! I have made some comments inline.
>>>>
>>>>     Oh and while we are at it. We will be having our next call on
>>>>     the 4th of March at 17:00 CET
>>>>     <http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=2747891,2643743,3451190,5391959&h=2747891&date=2015-2-26&sln=17-18>.
>>>>     I'll send out the link 5 min beforehand. Speak then!
>>>>
>>>>     Do you think btw it is worth it to send it out to the wider
>>>>     list to ask for feedback Marieke?
>>>>
>>>>     2015-02-24 10:21 GMT+01:00 Marieke Guy <marieke.guy at okfn.org
>>>>     <mailto:marieke.guy at okfn.org>>:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>>     I'm probably not going to be able to make the call as I'm away
>>>>     most of next week but I wanted to update you on how the Open
>>>>     Collections page is coming along.
>>>>
>>>>     We now have a new site on a different server (the other was a
>>>>     test server). There is quite a bit of content and I'm just in
>>>>     discussions with our designer regarding the CSS and styling (to
>>>>     align it with the rest of the OpenGLAM site).
>>>>
>>>>     The site is currently at http://omeka.okfn.org/ it will be
>>>>     moved to http://openglam.org/open-collections/ later on.
>>>>
>>>>     Some areas I'd like help with:
>>>>
>>>>       * We need to think about how we deal with rights. Should this
>>>>         be by star ratings for PD content (e.g.
>>>>         http://omeka.okfn.org/items/show/89) or is there another
>>>>         approach? Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>     I think stars for rights can be a bit problematic. I think we
>>>>     should just mention the rights and link to a page that explains
>>>>     them (PD Mark, CC BY etc.). Issue with stars is that they don't
>>>>     mean so much. If you are a very open institution, but you just
>>>>     don't happen to have that much material that is in the PD, does
>>>>     that mean you get less stars? A discussion we can have is what
>>>>     to do with material that is in the PD, but licensed with a CC
>>>>     BY license for example (Wellcome). Also, the 5 star system of
>>>>     Berners-Lee is mostly applicable on metadata I think, not so
>>>>     much on the content itself. If we look at the content with this
>>>>     system I think hardly any of them would get 5 stars.
>>>>
>>>>          *
>>>>           * Any thoughts on the metadata we are collecting for each
>>>>             item? Is there more you'd like to see? We can use
>>>>             Dublin core
>>>>             <http://omeka.org/codex/Working_with_Dublin_Core> or
>>>>             make up our own fields
>>>>
>>>>     I think DC is fine. Don't know if other people have thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>           * I've started adding tags and you can browse these from
>>>>             here
>>>>             <http://omeka.okfn.org/items/tags?sort_field=name&sort_dir=a>
>>>>             - any thoughts on the type of tags we can add
>>>>
>>>>     Can we limit them and people contributing pick one? For example
>>>>     'castle' does not seem like the most useful one. Architecture
>>>>     for example should be there I think. If people are missing tags
>>>>     they can suggest and we can add. Not sure if we should add
>>>>     countries as tags, what do people think?
>>>>
>>>>           * What should go on the search page
>>>>             <http://omeka.okfn.org/items/search> - is there
>>>>             currently too much? Should we reduce it/ restructure it?
>>>>
>>>>     I think the search only gets useful if there is really a load
>>>>     of material up there, which is currently not the case. Also, I
>>>>     recently heard at Europeana Tech some good talks from people
>>>>     who are anti-search boxes. They don't guide the user at all. I
>>>>     much prefer to do it with proper tagging so people can browse
>>>>     by category.
>>>>
>>>>          *
>>>>           * We need to test the contribution
>>>>             <http://omeka.okfn.org/contribution> page - anyone like
>>>>             to have a go?
>>>>
>>>>     I created an account but it says my pw is incorrect. If I try
>>>>     to reset it gives an error..
>>>>
>>>>           * Anyone technical care to have a look at the output
>>>>             formats - see the bottom of a browse page (atom,
>>>>             dcmes-xml, json, omeka-json, omeka-xml, rss2). There is
>>>>             an API available too - note to myself to look into this.
>>>>           * It was suggested that we could provide information
>>>>             about applications making use of these open GLAM
>>>>             collections - any ideas on how this could be done?
>>>>
>>>>     I suggest we do this in the second phase of development. Let's
>>>>     get this right first.
>>>>
>>>>           * Also suggested that we could provide a tracking system
>>>>             showing which collections are also available within
>>>>             Wikimedia Commons and/or Europeana, DPLA, or similar -
>>>>             thoughts on doing this?
>>>>
>>>>     I think setting up a tracking system is a bit too much work
>>>>     atm. Perhaps we can add a field in the contributions page where
>>>>     we ask 'Set available in Europeana? Yes/No and the possibility
>>>>     to include the link.
>>>>
>>>>          *
>>>>
>>>>         Any other comments/suggestions more than welcome.
>>>>
>>>>         Thanks
>>>>
>>>>         Marieke
>>>>
>>>>     Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>     Joris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On 23/02/2015 19:48, Joris Pekel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>>         February has nearly ended, which means time for our next call.
>>>>
>>>>         I have set up a Doodle here: http://doodle.com/p82zf584ticaczyz
>>>>
>>>>         Hope may of you can make it!
>>>>
>>>>         Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>         Joris
>>>>
>>>>
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