[openspending-dev] Spending Stories Calendar

Mon Jan 14 20:21:57 UTC 2013

Hey Martin,

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Martin Keegan <martin.keegan at okfn.org>wrote:

> There are three sorts of events I'd be concerned with:
>
> 1) the predicted/promised publication of data
> 2) the actual publication of data after it's happened
> 3) non-publication events (such as conferences, the budget speech, the
> fiscal year end)
>
> The data for 1) and 3) can be crowdsourced, and involves some manual
> work; the data for 2) should ideally be generated programmatically.
> Luckily these are all trivially small datasets.
>

I don't think we should crowd-source in the first iteration, Lisa has been
collecting calendars and we've been discussing type (1) publications with
IBP. I guess (2) is the highest value in that it is not only "reportable",
but also something where our ability to research data can add significant
value (as opposed to (3)).

> The comparison of 1) and 2) allows an automated scoresheet for
> compliance, which would be useful to people other than just the
> journalists who'd tend to care about many of the other use cases
>

Yes, in fact that was the origin of the calendar ideas, first raised by
folks at IBP :) It's essentially a "live mini OBS".

- Friedrich

>
> Mk
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Friedrich Lindenberg
> <friedrich at pudo.org> wrote:
> > Actually, this is the use cases for two apps, spendingstories.org (the
> > calendar) and mapthemoney.org (the CSO map), but we were discussing
> merging
> > them to avoid further confusion. I think we'll begin with the basic
> calendar
> > almost as a blog and then add semantics as we discover them - so the
> > question there is just what the simplest calendar app looks like. We also
> > have a lot of the contact information for "related groups" already in
> GDocs,
> > so this will probably end up as a speedy
> > GDocs-to-Map thing in the first instance.
> >
> > - Friedrich
> >
> >
> > On 1/9/13 11:37 AM, Rufus Pollock wrote:
> >>
> >> My immediate thought here is: that's quite a lot of use cases ;-)
> >>
> >> Are there a few on which one could focus?
> >>
> >> This would help me offer useful comments as to tech options ...
> >>
> >> Rufus
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8 January 2013 14:16, Friedrich Lindenberg <friedrich at pudo.org
> >> <mailto:friedrich at pudo.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Hey Rufus,
> >>
> >>     (for others, context:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2012/12/an-open-call-for-ideas-how-would-you-use-openspendings-data-calendar353.html
> )
> >>
> >>     I was trying to ping you earlier about a technical question, trying
> >>     to get your sense about the Spending Stories Calendar. There's user
> >>     stories under http://wdmmg.okfnpad.org/calendar, and we're
> undecided
> >>     about whether these put it into Wordpress/Duct-tape/Recline/GDocs
> >>     land or whether to have a bespoke Python app (perhaps using GDocs in
> >>     the back-end). I know that you're biased towards "glue apps" more
> >>     than I am, plus it's more hackable without Python dev time. Still,
> >>     my sense is that having a proper app would be better in terms of SEO
> >>     and reliability.
> >>
> >>     What do you think?
> >>
> >>     Cheers,
> >>
> >>       - Friedrich
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
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