[openspending-dev] Improvement of offenerhaushalt.at

Rufus Pollock rufus.pollock at okfn.org
Thu Jun 20 17:55:39 UTC 2013

Hi Bernhard,

Sounds good but I would continue to ask: is there no way to upload the
relevant datasets to the central repo at openspending.org *from the start*
and then build your site off that data (e.g. pulling data via the API)?

(I know this has been the discussion since the beginning but I still have
not really understood why that is not possible - OK, so some data needs to
be private for a while but that's possible in OpenSpending.org already

Contributing the data into a central location while *presenting* elsewhere
is the most natural approach and fits well with what you want to do.


On 20 June 2013 16:14, Krabina Bernhard <krabina at kdz.or.at> wrote:

> Dear OpenSpending community,
> I have both good and bad news for our Austrian implementation of an
> OpenSpending portal:
> Although some of you in the (dev)community for the OpenSpending software
> have been supportive in terms of reacting on the mailing lists and our idea
> of (partly) funding features that could be interesting for the OpenSpending
> core in general, no one has raised their hands and told us to be willing to
> implement on of the features we mentioned up to now.
> Additionally, we did not succeed in finding developers in Austria who were
> interested, besides a small startup in Vienna. They looked the openspending
> software, but were reluctant to take over the tasks because they had the
> feeling that the OpenSpending software is both very big and not very well
> documented and that the effort to get to know and productivley enhance it
> would be quite big. This is what also collegues from OKFN Germany told us
> right from the beginning (most of the German projects don't use the core
> software, just some elements).
> I don't want to start a discussion on wheter or not OpenSpending is a good
> or not so good piece of software or is well or not so well documented. Fact
> is, that time is pressing (we want to release an improved version of an
> openspending portal for Austria in early October) so we needed to take some
> decicions.
> So we decided that we will start from scratch based on a Drupal web site,
> using some open JavaScript visualization toolkits and build what we need
> around Drupal.
> It is going to be an openspending portal with the focus on:
> - spending data from ALL municipalities in Austria
> - municipalities being in control whether or not to make their
> data/visualisations open for everyone
> - no automatic feature of users being able to upload data and make their
> own visualsations (but we at KDZ are interested in other public spending
> data than from municipalities, so come and talk to us ;-)
> We want to continue our efforts towards making as much public spending
> data open and convincing as many municpalities (and other authorities) to
> do so, but we needed our special approach.
> As soon as we have our site up and running I will let you know and will be
> happy to cooperate with you in future (e. g. lets talk about how to put the
> disclosed datasets from our platform into openspending.org then...)
> Best regards,
> Bernhard
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