[openspending-dev] The Front Fell Off

[Everton Zanella Alvarenga]

Let's consider also sysadmin and maintenance work.

Tom


2014-04-11 13:00 GMT-03:00 Friedrich Lindenberg <friedrich at pudo.org>:

> Nick will be able to clarify what the current, AWS-based setup costs. The
> Hetzner machine I proposed would be 120 EUR a month (170 USD); but that
> figure is pretty meaningless compared to the cost of hosting, maintenance
> and user support.
>
> - Friedrich
>
>
> On 11 Apr 2014, at 17:57, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <
> everton.alvarenga at okfn.org> wrote:
>
> Can someone, please, give costs estimates for the actual infra-structure?
>
> How can we measure if it's enough?
>
> Tom
>
>
> 2014-04-11 12:54 GMT-03:00 Friedrich Lindenberg <friedrich at pudo.org>:
>
>> Hey Rufus,
>>
>> thanks for getting back to me.
>>
>> On 11 Apr 2014, at 17:10, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if we should get a diagnosis of the issue that we have right now
>> before doing a move (which is pretty cumbersome).
>>
>>
>> I'm sorry for my rash proposal to move the machine, it would obviously be
>> good to further diagnose the problem and to see what leads to the increased
>> number of timeouts. At the same time, I'm not aware of any massive changes
>> in the way that aggregation works, so it's reasonable to conclude that the
>> issue is resulting from growing dataset numbers and the resources available.
>>
>> More substantively, we probably need to think of a plan medium-term for:
>>
>> A. Finding a way to have infrastructure donated or paid for
>>
>>
>> Fully agreed, but it would be good if we could separate this from the
>> immediate issue of request timeouts. Otherwise, OKFN ends up in a place
>> where you're holding the users hostage in order to force them to contribute
>> to an as-yet-unwritten agreement on cost sharing.
>>
>> B. Establishing a proper mini devops teams to oversee and maintain the
>> services (it would be great to have enough folks here that we could have
>> someone "on-duty" at a given time)
>>
>>
>> I believe that's a function of A, since on-duty doesn't mean anything
>> without some sort of payment.
>>
>> - Friedrich
>>
>>
>> Especially for B people should shout out if they are interested in
>> contributing.
>>
>> Rufus
>>
>>
>> On 11 April 2014 12:34, Friedrich Lindenberg <friedrich at pudo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I got up this morning with three different people pinging me about OS
>>> not working. It's quite apparent that - whatever merits the Amazon hosting
>>> solution might have - it does not work in practice. To help with that, I
>>> would like to offer my support in moving OS to a new dedicated machine
>>> [e.g. 1] next week.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> - Friedrich
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px120
>>>
>>>
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