[openspending-dev] The Front Fell Off

Mon Apr 14 15:04:51 UTC 2014

Hi,

I thought a first step here might be to draft an analysis of what's causing
difficulties and how we plan to solve in classic sysadmin/devops analysis
style (and then post it on the blog).

I've started a draft here if people wanted to jump in:

 OpenSpending - Recent Performance Challenges + Plans Going
Forward<https://docs.google.com/a/okfn.org/document/d/11i9vMR3asHiH4yLAnqjWFae6hp-b_AoA97vmsoGmOWw/edit?usp=drive_web>

Rufus

On 11 April 2014 17:03, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <
everton.alvarenga at okfn.org> wrote:

> Let's consider also sysadmin and maintenance work.
>
> Tom
>
>
> 2014-04-11 13:00 GMT-03:00 Friedrich Lindenberg <friedrich at pudo.org>:
>
> Nick will be able to clarify what the current, AWS-based setup costs. The
>> Hetzner machine I proposed would be 120 EUR a month (170 USD); but that
>> figure is pretty meaningless compared to the cost of hosting, maintenance
>> and user support.
>>
>> - Friedrich
>>
>>
>> On 11 Apr 2014, at 17:57, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <
>> everton.alvarenga at okfn.org> wrote:
>>
>> Can someone, please, give costs estimates for the actual infra-structure?
>>
>> How can we measure if it's enough?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-11 12:54 GMT-03:00 Friedrich Lindenberg <friedrich at pudo.org>:
>>
>>> Hey Rufus,
>>>
>>> thanks for getting back to me.
>>>
>>> On 11 Apr 2014, at 17:10, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder if we should get a diagnosis of the issue that we have right
>>> now before doing a move (which is pretty cumbersome).
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m sorry for my rash proposal to move the machine, it would obviously
>>> be good to further diagnose the problem and to see what leads to the
>>> increased number of timeouts. At the same time, I’m not aware of any
>>> massive changes in the way that aggregation works, so it’s reasonable to
>>> conclude that the issue is resulting from growing dataset numbers and the
>>> resources available.
>>>
>>> More substantively, we probably need to think of a plan medium-term for:
>>>
>>> A. Finding a way to have infrastructure donated or paid for
>>>
>>>
>>> Fully agreed, but it would be good if we could separate this from the
>>> immediate issue of request timeouts. Otherwise, OKFN ends up in a place
>>> where you’re holding the users hostage in order to force them to contribute
>>> to an as-yet-unwritten agreement on cost sharing.
>>>
>>> B. Establishing a proper mini devops teams to oversee and maintain the
>>> services (it would be great to have enough folks here that we could have
>>> someone "on-duty" at a given time)
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe that’s a function of A, since on-duty doesn’t mean anything
>>> without some sort of payment.
>>>
>>> - Friedrich
>>>
>>>
>>> Especially for B people should shout out if they are interested in
>>> contributing.
>>>
>>> Rufus
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 April 2014 12:34, Friedrich Lindenberg <friedrich at pudo.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> I got up this morning with three different people pinging me about OS
>>>> not working. It’s quite apparent that - whatever merits the Amazon hosting
>>>> solution might have - it does not work in practice. To help with that, I
>>>> would like to offer my support in moving OS to a new dedicated machine
>>>> [e.g. 1] next week.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> - Friedrich
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px120
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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