[wdmmg-discuss] UK tax and cuts
Tim Hubbard
timjph at gmail.com
Mon Jun 14 11:00:15 UTC 2010
Lisa, the data here
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AonYZs4MzlZbdHZFSk80Rl9Ma2xJUDlrRWN3R3ljbkE&gid=0
seems to be highly relevant to the project, in terms of working out
how large the tax rises/cuts need to be to balance the books
reported here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/jun/14/office-budget-responsibility-report-forecasts-gdp
Tim
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At 22:58 +0100 13/6/10, Lisa Evans wrote:
>I was hoping you'd add more Tim, thank you.
>
>I've come up with three methods for making a list of spending cut choices.
>
>1. We could start from the list of results from Chop or Not
>(http://chopornot.channel4.com/) and use the costings that channel 4 used.
>
>2. We could look for items on COINS that represent a likely selection.
>
>3. We categorise types of spending in COINS and allow people to 'drill
>down' into those categories of spending and allow more details of the type
>of spending so people can choose if they would want to cut this spending
>or not. The way COINS is organised by different National Account Codes
>that are listed in Annex B of the COINS guidance, might be a good
>categorisation to start with. Or maybe COFOG is a better starting point.
>
>Other suggestions are most welcome. Let me know what you think.
>
>Lisa
>
>On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Tim Hubbard wrote:
>
>> To follow up on Lisa's email:
>>
>> At 16:25 +0100 11/6/10, Lisa Evans wrote:
>> >We have an exciting new project!
>> >
>> >With the emergency budget consultation, we are planning a simple
>> >interactive tool that will show the consequences of tax increases
>> >and cuts.
>> >
>> >The idea, and all of the work so far, is from Dr Tim Hubbard.
>> >Would other people like to join this little research team to get
>> >this up and running in time?
>>
>> To give an idea of what has been so far - I've been working on a
>> spreadsheet modelling the different types of UK taxation, so that its
>> possible to increase income tax or national insurance or capital
>> gains and see how that effects individuals in different income bands
>> and the total amount raised in a year. Of course the figures are
>> going to be rough, but already its possible to see how much its would
>> be necessary to raise taxes to make a significant impact on the
>> deficit for example. Lisa is similarly modelling the effect of cuts.
>> The idea is to build a website around this data where people can play
>> around with the controls and try and balence the UK budget, making
>> their choice between cuts and tax rises.
>>
>> The aim is to start simple with a static model...it could be made
>> progressively more realistic over time (if it can be worked out how)
>> with feedback loops, change over time etc.
>>
>> One key issue is that if this is to influence the current political
>> debate - and I think there's a real chance to do this, given OKFs
>> profile with http://www.wheredoesmymoneygo.org/ and data.gov.uk - the
>> site needs to be built really, really fast...
>>
>> >We need:
>> >
>> >- suggestions for cuts
>> >- ways we can measure if the effects of the changes will be good
>> >enough - advice on taxation
>> >- suggestions for a name for the project
>>
>> ...and a catchy name would be really good!
>>
>> following on from wheredoesmymoneygo might be
>>
>> www.howwouldicutthedeficit.org (hwictd)
>>
>> although its a bit long
>>
>> or something completely different and shorter
>>
>> www.selfgov.org (domain is taken though)
>>
>> ideas?
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Tim
>>
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