[wdmmg-discuss] #open3rdsector wdmmg-discuss Digest, Vol 10, Issue 16
Kathryn.Corrick
kathryn.corrick at googlemail.com
Mon Oct 18 15:04:13 UTC 2010
Thanks David!
Sent from my phone.
On 18 Oct 2010, at 12:20, David Pidsley <davidpids at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Have you seen "actual cuts made to government funding of voluntary sector organisations" here: http://www.ncvo-vol.org.uk/networking-discussions/blogs/116/10/10/15/crowdsourcing-cuts-story-so-far.
>
> You can see my tweets on it here: http://twitter.com/#!/davidpidsley/status/27432522313 and here http://twitter.com/davidpidsley/status/27432522313
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> David Pidsley
> Lymington, Hampshire. United Kingdom
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Cuts website live (Richard Pope)
> 2. Re: Cuts website live (Lisa Evans)
> 3. Re: Cuts website live (Rufus Pollock)
> 4. Re: Cuts website live (Richard Pope)
> 5. Re: Cuts website live (Richard Pope)
> 6. Re: Cuts website live (Rufus Pollock)
> 7. Re: Cuts website live (Kathryn.Corrick)
> 8. Re: Cuts website live (Richard Pope)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 22:19:30 +0100
> From: Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk>
> Subject: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
> To: "Where does my money go?" <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
> Message-ID:
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>
> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data loaded, still
> working on Schools cuts:
>
> http://wherearethecuts.org/
>
> Thoughts / suggestions?
>
> Richard
>
> --
> /*
> richard at memespring.co.uk
> memespring.co.uk
> ++44 7976730458
> memespring (flickr/skype/etc)
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 23:30:53 +0100 (BST)
> From: Lisa Evans <lisa.evans at okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
> To: Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk>
> Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1010172312280.13715 at hex.dart.local>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> This is excellent, very engaging and neat to explore.
>
> In addition to reporting a cut, what other ways would you like people to
> make more sense of the reported cuts?
>
> For example this cut http://wherearethecuts.org/reports/view/2234, there
> is no amount given, so are people here encouraged to read the source and
> add comments on how much is cut?
>
>
> On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Richard Pope wrote:
>
> > I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data loaded, still
> > working on Schools cuts:
> >
> > http://wherearethecuts.org/
> >
> > Thoughts / suggestions?
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:49:46 +0100
> From: Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
> To: richard at memespring.co.uk
> Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTik95sm7VMQAZn=AsAtPfN8LsHNz63EnLhnPVUXs at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On 17 October 2010 22:19, Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
> > I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data loaded, still
> > working on Schools cuts:
> >
> > http://wherearethecuts.org/
> >
> > Thoughts / suggestions?
>
> First off: this is great! Brilliant idea to re-purpose Ushashidi.
> Really, really good. Some thoughts:
>
> 1. I've been working a little bit now you have automated other data to
> hand enter the (limited) detailed cuts info we had from:
> http://wheredoesmymoneygo.org/cuts/ effort.
>
> One example is: <http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/media_releases/7297.aspx>
>
> Most of these cuts are to general UK-wide bodies (e.g. UK Film
> Council). At the moment I am coding these geographically as London. Is
> this sensible?
>
> 2. At the moment it appears a hand-entered cut has to be manually
> approved before it goes live -- any way to bring in more moderators ;)
>
> 3. Second Lisa's comments about amounts. Could not see a field to
> enter the amount (which would be useful to have -- when it is known).
>
> Rufus
>
> PS: if you want OKF logo you can find it here:
> <http://m.okfn.org/images/logo/okf_logo_white_and_green.png>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:55:03 +0100
> From: Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
> To: Lisa Evans <lisa.evans at okfn.org>
> Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTikAuZLHvEJT8fYTRxFJoQ=vAVum4bQZCxLqB9df at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Lisa Evans <lisa.evans at okfn.org> wrote:
> > This is excellent, very engaging and neat to explore.
> >
> > In addition to reporting a cut, what other ways would you like people to
> > make more sense of the reported cuts?
>
> I'm going to repurpose the comments to ask people to add specific bits
> of information. This will be especially useful for the schools data -
> was it just a couple of new computers or replacing a leaking roof etc.
>
> >
> > For example this cut http://wherearethecuts.org/reports/view/2234, there is
> > no amount given, so are people here encouraged to read the source and add
> > comments on how much is cut?
>
> Yes, i'm going to make the news link much more obvious. When it gets
> down to a local level, the amounts are not always that clear, or might
> be announced over different time periods, so the context is important.
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Richard Pope wrote:
> >
> >> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data loaded, still
> >> working on Schools cuts:
> >>
> >> http://wherearethecuts.org/
> >>
> >> Thoughts / suggestions?
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> /*
> richard at memespring.co.uk
> memespring.co.uk
> ++44 7976730458
> memespring (flickr/skype/etc)
> memspr (aim)
> */
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:00:03 +0100
> From: Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
> To: rufus.pollock at okfn.org
> Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTimbrxpKsr5+648v3Z5HAvbxnuqp2v-yRaEZ4TWg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
> > On 17 October 2010 22:19, Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
> >> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data loaded, still
> >> working on Schools cuts:
> >>
> >> http://wherearethecuts.org/
> >>
> >> Thoughts / suggestions?
> >
> > First off: this is great! Brilliant idea to re-purpose Ushashidi.
> > Really, really good. Some thoughts:
> >
> > 1. I've been working a little bit now you have automated other data to
> > hand enter the (limited) detailed cuts info we had from:
> > http://wheredoesmymoneygo.org/cuts/ effort.
> >
> > One example is: <http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/media_releases/7297.aspx>
> >
> > Most of these cuts are to general UK-wide bodies (e.g. UK Film
> > Council). At the moment I am coding these geographically as London. Is
> > this sensible?
>
> hmm. If possible I think we should try and find the next level down.
> e.g. if the film council is going, we should be able to get a list fo
> all active programmes.
>
> >
> > 2. At the moment it appears a hand-entered cut has to be manually
> > approved before it goes live -- any way to bring in more moderators ;)
>
> I'll add a 'Get involved' section to the about page asking for
> moderators and data sleuths. Should I point them at this list or if
> not can we have a team@ email address?
>
> >
> > 3. Second Lisa's comments about amounts. Could not see a field to
> > enter the amount (which would be useful to have -- when it is known).
>
> See above comments, but yes I'll see if its possible to hack an
> explicit field in.
>
> >
> > Rufus
> >
> > PS: if you want OKF logo you can find it here:
> > <http://m.okfn.org/images/logo/okf_logo_white_and_green.png>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> /*
> richard at memespring.co.uk
> memespring.co.uk
> ++44 7976730458
> memespring (flickr/skype/etc)
> memspr (aim)
> */
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:34:39 +0100
> From: Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
> To: richard at memespring.co.uk
> Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTi=z0aiOUMw_ws4HiiU8KOoeWMOFDJ3HhLx7ZOBu at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On 18 October 2010 10:00, Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
> >> On 17 October 2010 22:19, Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data loaded, still
> >>> working on Schools cuts:
> >>>
> >>> http://wherearethecuts.org/
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts / suggestions?
> >>
> >> First off: this is great! Brilliant idea to re-purpose Ushashidi.
> >> Really, really good. Some thoughts:
> >>
> >> 1. I've been working a little bit now you have automated other data to
> >> hand enter the (limited) detailed cuts info we had from:
> >> http://wheredoesmymoneygo.org/cuts/ effort.
> >>
> >> One example is: <http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/media_releases/7297.aspx>
> >>
> >> Most of these cuts are to general UK-wide bodies (e.g. UK Film
> >> Council). At the moment I am coding these geographically as London. Is
> >> this sensible?
> >
> > hmm. If possible I think we should try and find the next level down.
> > e.g. if the film council is going, we should be able to get a list fo
> > all active programmes.
>
> But things like the UK Film Council were funding projects UK wide I
> imagine. Similarly for the Museums, Libraries and Archives Council --
> but we can dig!
>
> >> 2. At the moment it appears a hand-entered cut has to be manually
> >> approved before it goes live -- any way to bring in more moderators ;)
> >
> > I'll add a 'Get involved' section to the about page asking for
> > moderators and ?data sleuths. Should I point them at this list or if
> > not can we have a team@ email address?
>
> I think both, but often the email alias is better so I'll set up
> team at wherearethecuts.org now and forward to you, Jordan Hatch (you
> happy for this Jordan?), Lisa and myself.
>
> >>
> >> 3. Second Lisa's comments about amounts. Could not see a field to
> >> enter the amount (which would be useful to have -- when it is known).
> >
> > See above comments, but yes I'll see if its possible to hack an
> > explicit field in.
>
> Great.
>
> Rufus
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:42:39 +0100
> From: "Kathryn.Corrick" <kathryn.corrick at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
> To: "rufus.pollock at okfn.org" <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
> Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
> Message-ID: <35F5DFF5-98CD-4AB2-8B8C-DE09F69FCD37 at googlemail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hiya,
> Let me know if/when it's at a point where we want public help and I'll tweet it. Just let me know specifically the needs and where folk should go. Would suggest this list might not be the best for that as could get confusing and over run.
>
> Kathryn
>
> Sent from my phone.
>
> On 18 Oct 2010, at 10:34, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
>
> > On 18 October 2010 10:00, Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
> >>> On 17 October 2010 22:19, Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data loaded, still
> >>>> working on Schools cuts:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://wherearethecuts.org/
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts / suggestions?
> >>>
> >>> First off: this is great! Brilliant idea to re-purpose Ushashidi.
> >>> Really, really good. Some thoughts:
> >>>
> >>> 1. I've been working a little bit now you have automated other data to
> >>> hand enter the (limited) detailed cuts info we had from:
> >>> http://wheredoesmymoneygo.org/cuts/ effort.
> >>>
> >>> One example is: <http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/media_releases/7297.aspx>
> >>>
> >>> Most of these cuts are to general UK-wide bodies (e.g. UK Film
> >>> Council). At the moment I am coding these geographically as London. Is
> >>> this sensible?
> >>
> >> hmm. If possible I think we should try and find the next level down.
> >> e.g. if the film council is going, we should be able to get a list fo
> >> all active programmes.
> >
> > But things like the UK Film Council were funding projects UK wide I
> > imagine. Similarly for the Museums, Libraries and Archives Council --
> > but we can dig!
> >
> >>> 2. At the moment it appears a hand-entered cut has to be manually
> >>> approved before it goes live -- any way to bring in more moderators ;)
> >>
> >> I'll add a 'Get involved' section to the about page asking for
> >> moderators and data sleuths. Should I point them at this list or if
> >> not can we have a team@ email address?
> >
> > I think both, but often the email alias is better so I'll set up
> > team at wherearethecuts.org now and forward to you, Jordan Hatch (you
> > happy for this Jordan?), Lisa and myself.
> >
> >>>
> >>> 3. Second Lisa's comments about amounts. Could not see a field to
> >>> enter the amount (which would be useful to have -- when it is known).
> >>
> >> See above comments, but yes I'll see if its possible to hack an
> >> explicit field in.
> >
> > Great.
> >
> > Rufus
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > wdmmg-discuss mailing list
> > wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org
> > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wdmmg-discuss
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:42:45 +0100
> From: Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
> To: rufus.pollock at okfn.org
> Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTik=F=AM7+OrsDtAA56wajQR0Z1+dyH0j-8z=C4C at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
> > On 18 October 2010 10:00, Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
> >>> On 17 October 2010 22:19, Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data loaded, still
> >>>> working on Schools cuts:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://wherearethecuts.org/
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts / suggestions?
> >>>
> >>> First off: this is great! Brilliant idea to re-purpose Ushashidi.
> >>> Really, really good. Some thoughts:
> >>>
> >>> 1. I've been working a little bit now you have automated other data to
> >>> hand enter the (limited) detailed cuts info we had from:
> >>> http://wheredoesmymoneygo.org/cuts/ effort.
> >>>
> >>> One example is: <http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/media_releases/7297.aspx>
> >>>
> >>> Most of these cuts are to general UK-wide bodies (e.g. UK Film
> >>> Council). At the moment I am coding these geographically as London. Is
> >>> this sensible?
> >>
> >> hmm. If possible I think we should try and find the next level down.
> >> e.g. if the film council is going, we should be able to get a list fo
> >> all active programmes.
> >
> > But things like the UK Film Council were funding projects UK wide I
> > imagine. Similarly for the Museums, Libraries and Archives Council --
> > but we can dig!
>
> Yes, but I've been quite lucky so far - e.g. both Advantage West
> Midlands funded regionally and the Arts Council funded nationally, but
> I've managed to get the the details of the actual programmes.
>
> >
> >>> 2. At the moment it appears a hand-entered cut has to be manually
> >>> approved before it goes live -- any way to bring in more moderators ;)
> >>
> >> I'll add a 'Get involved' section to the about page asking for
> >> moderators and ?data sleuths. Should I point them at this list or if
> >> not can we have a team@ email address?
> >
> > I think both, but often the email alias is better so I'll set up
> > team at wherearethecuts.org now and forward to you, Jordan Hatch (you
> > happy for this Jordan?), Lisa and myself.
>
> Cool. Added the logo btw.
>
> >
> >>>
> >>> 3. Second Lisa's comments about amounts. Could not see a field to
> >>> enter the amount (which would be useful to have -- when it is known).
> >>
> >> See above comments, but yes I'll see if its possible to hack an
> >> explicit field in.
> >
> > Great.
> >
> > Rufus
> >
>
>
>
> --
> /*
> richard at memespring.co.uk
> memespring.co.uk
> ++44 7976730458
> memespring (flickr/skype/etc)
> memspr (aim)
> */
>
>
>
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