[wdmmg-discuss] #open3rdsector wdmmg-discuss Digest, Vol 10, Issue 16
David Kane
David.Kane at ncvo-vol.org.uk
Mon Oct 18 15:13:02 UTC 2010
Thanks for pointing it out David.
If it's possible for our cuts data to be imported into
http://wherearethecuts.org/
<http://wherearethecuts.org/http://wherearethecuts.org/> then happy for
that to happen. There are 614 responses but 555 of those are from the
Arts Council list, so 59 are unique. I'll input them manually if needed
but it would be much easier if it could be imported automatically.
We're hoping to have a big push of the survey post-spending review, and
use our networks to capture what's happening to voluntary organisations,
so I'll also promote the wherearethecuts.org at the same time.
Thanks
Dave
David Kane
Research Officer
National Council for Voluntary Organisations
david.kane at ncvo-vol.org.uk
020 7520 2579
ww.ncvo-vol.org.uk/almanac
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10,Issue 16
Hi All,
Have you seen "actual cuts made to government funding of voluntary
sector organisations" here:
http://www.ncvo-vol.org.uk/networking-discussions/blogs/116/10/10/15/cro
wdsourcing-cuts-story-so-far.
<http://www.ncvo-vol.org.uk/networking-discussions/blogs/116/10/10/15/cr
owdsourcing-cuts-story-so-far> You can see my tweets on it here:
http://twitter.com/#!/davidpidsley/status/27432522313 and here
http://twitter.com/davidpidsley/status/27432522313
<http://twitter.com/davidpidsley/status/27432522313> Kindest regards,
David Pidsley
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2. Re: Cuts website live (Lisa Evans)
3. Re: Cuts website live (Rufus Pollock)
4. Re: Cuts website live (Richard Pope)
5. Re: Cuts website live (Richard Pope)
6. Re: Cuts website live (Rufus Pollock)
7. Re: Cuts website live (Kathryn.Corrick)
8. Re: Cuts website live (Richard Pope)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 22:19:30 +0100
From: Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk>
Subject: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
To: "Where does my money go?" <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
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I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data loaded,
still
working on Schools cuts:
http://wherearethecuts.org/
Thoughts / suggestions?
Richard
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 23:30:53 +0100 (BST)
From: Lisa Evans <lisa.evans at okfn.org>
Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
To: Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk>
Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
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This is excellent, very engaging and neat to explore.
In addition to reporting a cut, what other ways would you like
people to
make more sense of the reported cuts?
For example this cut
http://wherearethecuts.org/reports/view/2234, there
is no amount given, so are people here encouraged to read the
source and
add comments on how much is cut?
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Richard Pope wrote:
> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data
loaded, still
> working on Schools cuts:
>
> http://wherearethecuts.org/
>
> Thoughts / suggestions?
>
> Richard
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:49:46 +0100
From: Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
To: richard at memespring.co.uk
Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
Message-ID:
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On 17 October 2010 22:19, Richard Pope
<richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data
loaded, still
> working on Schools cuts:
>
> http://wherearethecuts.org/
>
> Thoughts / suggestions?
First off: this is great! Brilliant idea to re-purpose
Ushashidi.
Really, really good. Some thoughts:
1. I've been working a little bit now you have automated other
data to
hand enter the (limited) detailed cuts info we had from:
http://wheredoesmymoneygo.org/cuts/ effort.
One example is:
<http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/media_releases/7297.aspx>
Most of these cuts are to general UK-wide bodies (e.g. UK Film
Council). At the moment I am coding these geographically as
London. Is
this sensible?
2. At the moment it appears a hand-entered cut has to be
manually
approved before it goes live -- any way to bring in more
moderators ;)
3. Second Lisa's comments about amounts. Could not see a field
to
enter the amount (which would be useful to have -- when it is
known).
Rufus
PS: if you want OKF logo you can find it here:
<http://m.okfn.org/images/logo/okf_logo_white_and_green.png>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:55:03 +0100
From: Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
To: Lisa Evans <lisa.evans at okfn.org>
Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
Message-ID:
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On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Lisa Evans
<lisa.evans at okfn.org> wrote:
> This is excellent, very engaging and neat to explore.
>
> In addition to reporting a cut, what other ways would you like
people to
> make more sense of the reported cuts?
I'm going to repurpose the comments to ask people to add
specific bits
of information. This will be especially useful for the schools
data -
was it just a couple of new computers or replacing a leaking
roof etc.
>
> For example this cut
http://wherearethecuts.org/reports/view/2234, there is
> no amount given, so are people here encouraged to read the
source and add
> comments on how much is cut?
Yes, i'm going to make the news link much more obvious. When it
gets
down to a local level, the amounts are not always that clear, or
might
be announced over different time periods, so the context is
important.
>
>
> On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Richard Pope wrote:
>
>> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data
loaded, still
>> working on Schools cuts:
>>
>> http://wherearethecuts.org/
>>
>> Thoughts / suggestions?
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:00:03 +0100
From: Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
To: rufus.pollock at okfn.org
Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
Message-ID:
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>
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On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Rufus Pollock
<rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
> On 17 October 2010 22:19, Richard Pope
<richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
>> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data
loaded, still
>> working on Schools cuts:
>>
>> http://wherearethecuts.org/
>>
>> Thoughts / suggestions?
>
> First off: this is great! Brilliant idea to re-purpose
Ushashidi.
> Really, really good. Some thoughts:
>
> 1. I've been working a little bit now you have automated other
data to
> hand enter the (limited) detailed cuts info we had from:
> http://wheredoesmymoneygo.org/cuts/ effort.
>
> One example is:
<http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/media_releases/7297.aspx>
>
> Most of these cuts are to general UK-wide bodies (e.g. UK Film
> Council). At the moment I am coding these geographically as
London. Is
> this sensible?
hmm. If possible I think we should try and find the next level
down.
e.g. if the film council is going, we should be able to get a
list fo
all active programmes.
>
> 2. At the moment it appears a hand-entered cut has to be
manually
> approved before it goes live -- any way to bring in more
moderators ;)
I'll add a 'Get involved' section to the about page asking for
moderators and data sleuths. Should I point them at this list
or if
not can we have a team@ email address?
>
> 3. Second Lisa's comments about amounts. Could not see a field
to
> enter the amount (which would be useful to have -- when it is
known).
See above comments, but yes I'll see if its possible to hack an
explicit field in.
>
> Rufus
>
> PS: if you want OKF logo you can find it here:
> <http://m.okfn.org/images/logo/okf_logo_white_and_green.png>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:34:39 +0100
From: Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
To: richard at memespring.co.uk
Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
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On 18 October 2010 10:00, Richard Pope
<richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Rufus Pollock
<rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
>> On 17 October 2010 22:19, Richard Pope
<richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
>>> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data
loaded, still
>>> working on Schools cuts:
>>>
>>> http://wherearethecuts.org/
>>>
>>> Thoughts / suggestions?
>>
>> First off: this is great! Brilliant idea to re-purpose
Ushashidi.
>> Really, really good. Some thoughts:
>>
>> 1. I've been working a little bit now you have automated
other data to
>> hand enter the (limited) detailed cuts info we had from:
>> http://wheredoesmymoneygo.org/cuts/ effort.
>>
>> One example is:
<http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/media_releases/7297.aspx>
>>
>> Most of these cuts are to general UK-wide bodies (e.g. UK
Film
>> Council). At the moment I am coding these geographically as
London. Is
>> this sensible?
>
> hmm. If possible I think we should try and find the next level
down.
> e.g. if the film council is going, we should be able to get a
list fo
> all active programmes.
But things like the UK Film Council were funding projects UK
wide I
imagine. Similarly for the Museums, Libraries and Archives
Council --
but we can dig!
>> 2. At the moment it appears a hand-entered cut has to be
manually
>> approved before it goes live -- any way to bring in more
moderators ;)
>
> I'll add a 'Get involved' section to the about page asking for
> moderators and ?data sleuths. Should I point them at this list
or if
> not can we have a team@ email address?
I think both, but often the email alias is better so I'll set up
team at wherearethecuts.org now and forward to you, Jordan Hatch
(you
happy for this Jordan?), Lisa and myself.
>>
>> 3. Second Lisa's comments about amounts. Could not see a
field to
>> enter the amount (which would be useful to have -- when it is
known).
>
> See above comments, but yes I'll see if its possible to hack
an
> explicit field in.
Great.
Rufus
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:42:39 +0100
From: "Kathryn.Corrick" <kathryn.corrick at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
To: "rufus.pollock at okfn.org" <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
Message-ID:
<35F5DFF5-98CD-4AB2-8B8C-DE09F69FCD37 at googlemail.com>
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Hiya,
Let me know if/when it's at a point where we want public help
and I'll tweet it. Just let me know specifically the needs and where
folk should go. Would suggest this list might not be the best for that
as could get confusing and over run.
Kathryn
Sent from my phone.
On 18 Oct 2010, at 10:34, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
wrote:
> On 18 October 2010 10:00, Richard Pope
<richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Rufus Pollock
<rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
>>> On 17 October 2010 22:19, Richard Pope
<richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data
loaded, still
>>>> working on Schools cuts:
>>>>
>>>> http://wherearethecuts.org/
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts / suggestions?
>>>
>>> First off: this is great! Brilliant idea to re-purpose
Ushashidi.
>>> Really, really good. Some thoughts:
>>>
>>> 1. I've been working a little bit now you have automated
other data to
>>> hand enter the (limited) detailed cuts info we had from:
>>> http://wheredoesmymoneygo.org/cuts/ effort.
>>>
>>> One example is:
<http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/media_releases/7297.aspx>
>>>
>>> Most of these cuts are to general UK-wide bodies (e.g. UK
Film
>>> Council). At the moment I am coding these geographically as
London. Is
>>> this sensible?
>>
>> hmm. If possible I think we should try and find the next
level down.
>> e.g. if the film council is going, we should be able to get a
list fo
>> all active programmes.
>
> But things like the UK Film Council were funding projects UK
wide I
> imagine. Similarly for the Museums, Libraries and Archives
Council --
> but we can dig!
>
>>> 2. At the moment it appears a hand-entered cut has to be
manually
>>> approved before it goes live -- any way to bring in more
moderators ;)
>>
>> I'll add a 'Get involved' section to the about page asking
for
>> moderators and data sleuths. Should I point them at this
list or if
>> not can we have a team@ email address?
>
> I think both, but often the email alias is better so I'll set
up
> team at wherearethecuts.org now and forward to you, Jordan Hatch
(you
> happy for this Jordan?), Lisa and myself.
>
>>>
>>> 3. Second Lisa's comments about amounts. Could not see a
field to
>>> enter the amount (which would be useful to have -- when it
is known).
>>
>> See above comments, but yes I'll see if its possible to hack
an
>> explicit field in.
>
> Great.
>
> Rufus
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:42:45 +0100
From: Richard Pope <richard at memespring.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] Cuts website live
To: rufus.pollock at okfn.org
Cc: Where does my money go? <wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
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On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Rufus Pollock
<rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
> On 18 October 2010 10:00, Richard Pope
<richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Rufus Pollock
<rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
>>> On 17 October 2010 22:19, Richard Pope
<richard at memespring.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> I have the Advantage West Midlands and Arts Council data
loaded, still
>>>> working on Schools cuts:
>>>>
>>>> http://wherearethecuts.org/
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts / suggestions?
>>>
>>> First off: this is great! Brilliant idea to re-purpose
Ushashidi.
>>> Really, really good. Some thoughts:
>>>
>>> 1. I've been working a little bit now you have automated
other data to
>>> hand enter the (limited) detailed cuts info we had from:
>>> http://wheredoesmymoneygo.org/cuts/ effort.
>>>
>>> One example is:
<http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/media_releases/7297.aspx>
>>>
>>> Most of these cuts are to general UK-wide bodies (e.g. UK
Film
>>> Council). At the moment I am coding these geographically as
London. Is
>>> this sensible?
>>
>> hmm. If possible I think we should try and find the next
level down.
>> e.g. if the film council is going, we should be able to get a
list fo
>> all active programmes.
>
> But things like the UK Film Council were funding projects UK
wide I
> imagine. Similarly for the Museums, Libraries and Archives
Council --
> but we can dig!
Yes, but I've been quite lucky so far - e.g. both Advantage West
Midlands funded regionally and the Arts Council funded
nationally, but
I've managed to get the the details of the actual programmes.
>
>>> 2. At the moment it appears a hand-entered cut has to be
manually
>>> approved before it goes live -- any way to bring in more
moderators ;)
>>
>> I'll add a 'Get involved' section to the about page asking
for
>> moderators and ?data sleuths. Should I point them at this
list or if
>> not can we have a team@ email address?
>
> I think both, but often the email alias is better so I'll set
up
> team at wherearethecuts.org now and forward to you, Jordan Hatch
(you
> happy for this Jordan?), Lisa and myself.
Cool. Added the logo btw.
>
>>>
>>> 3. Second Lisa's comments about amounts. Could not see a
field to
>>> enter the amount (which would be useful to have -- when it
is known).
>>
>> See above comments, but yes I'll see if its possible to hack
an
>> explicit field in.
>
> Great.
>
> Rufus
>
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