[wdmmg-discuss] Using where does my money goes in Participatory Democracy

Tue May 3 17:09:55 UTC 2011

Hello All,

It's wonderful to hear all the international support for Vote With
Your Taxes. It's really not that big of an issue for me to modify the
codebase ( I should really open source it anyway ) to support any
country, state or city budget situation. Or I can show you how to do
it. Everything is stored as variables and populates from there.
Please, contact me directly ( sean at 8isc.com ) and I'll do what I can
within my contraints to make things happen.

Thank you Friedrich for making the connection.

Sean

2011/5/3 Miguel Prados Rodríguez <miguelpradosrodriguez at gmail.com>:
> Thanks for your help, I did not know all this resources !!
> Really the tool that will help is votewithyourtaxes because it allows you to
> compare the actual budget with the people's proposed one, and permits
> citizens to compare their expectations with the government they are involved
> with at present...
> Hope we will be able to translate it on time (if we get it)..
> Thanks, Miguel
>
> El 3 de mayo de 2011 15:43, David Cabo <david at calibea.com> escribió:
>>
>>  Hi Miguel,
>>
>>  It's not really what you asked for, but I think you may be interested
>> in looking at dondevanmisimpuestos.es. It's a port of the original
>> wdmmg site to Spain, using the data from the national budget
>> (Presupuestos Generales del Estado).
>>
>>  My plan is to move from the national level to the regional and
>> municipal level over the coming months. Covering all the
>> regions/cities is a lot of work, since the budgets are in different
>> formats, but I'd like to do the most important ones. Which city are
>> you talking about? If you have a detailed budget and you are
>> interested we could try to display the budget.
>>
>>  regards,
>>
>> /david
>>
>> 2011/5/3 Miguel Prados Rodríguez <miguelpradosrodriguez at gmail.com>:
>> > Hi Friedrich,
>> > I think for the local elections, votewithyourtaxes is the exact tool I
>> > was
>> > thinking of !!!!
>> > Maybe I can put the past budget of the local city council and compare it
>> > with the expected budget the people wanted for their city, it is such a
>> > powerful tool to show the people they should have the power to decide,
>> > it is
>> > real participatory democracy.
>> > I have no programming capacity but I can mess around, I think it is just
>> > a
>> > matter of translating the tool and changing the actual budget, giving
>> > (of
>> > course) the appropriate credits to the author/s and keeping the "donate"
>> > button for them.
>> > It is the first time in history in Spain that a 100% participatory
>> > democratic party goes to the elections, and it will be an extraordinary
>> > promoting tool, the electoral campaign begins on the 6th of May (in
>> > three
>> > days) and last for 15 days, I can have no rest to try to translate the
>> > tool
>> > on time.
>> > Yourtopia will be something we definitively will love to use for the
>> > country's general elections, next year
>> > Thanks for your help Friedrich,
>> >
>> >
>> > Miguel Prados
>> >
>> >
>> > El 3 de mayo de 2011 02:14, Friedrich Lindenberg
>> > <friedrich.lindenberg at okfn.org> escribió:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Miguel,
>> >>
>> >> I think it would be very interesting to have some way of creating
>> >> shadow budgets in OpenSpending. I just met Sean (CC), the creator of
>> >> http://votewithyourtaxes.com/ at TransparencyCamp. His site allows you
>> >> to propose an alternative priorization of the items of the US budget
>> >> and then contrast that with the actual decision, generating a letter
>> >> that you can send to your representatives. Given the data in
>> >> OpenSpending and the voting work we've done in YourTopia
>> >> (yourtopia.net), it should be simple to generalize such a
>> >> functionality to support different kinds of budgets and multiple
>> >> levels of detail.
>> >>
>> >> Is that similar to what you're looking for? Do you have any
>> >> programming capacity to support the implementation of such an idea?
>> >>
>> >> - Friedrich
>> >>
>> >> 2011/5/2 Miguel Prados Rodríguez <miguelpradosrodriguez at gmail.com>:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> > I am Miguel from Spain, I have created a political party,
>> >> > "participatory
>> >> > democracy" that will bid for the local elections in many cities in
>> >> > Spain.
>> >> > I've found this application very useful and I wonder whether it could
>> >> > be
>> >> > used by citizens to actually "choose" the distribution they want for
>> >> > the
>> >> > city budget, making participatory democracy a reality.
>> >> > Regards, Miguel
>> >> >
>> >> >
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