[wdmmg-discuss] portugal data

Lucy Chambers lucy.chambers at okfn.org
Mon Sep 12 15:33:52 UTC 2011


Dear Angelica,

Great, I wouldn't worry too much about being able to programme, that
is the reason why we are training people like Carlos, although we are
trying to eliminate more and more of the technical aspect to make it
easier for anyone to do!

@Carlos, Argentina team - would you be able to make a call at some
point on Wednesday to talk this over further? What times are good for
you? I presume evening European time for Carlos will be best?

Best,

Lucy

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Peralta Ramos Momi (Gerente de
Desarrollo Multimedia) <APERALTA at lanacion.com.ar> wrote:
> Thanks Lucy! Let´s find some time for a call this week because next week I´m travelling for ten days. I´ll copy Ricardo in our team, but please take in consideration we are not Phyton programmers, Ricardo is IT Manager, but not Pyhton programmer!
>
> Do you suggest we go on or find some phytonist and then make our call ?
>
> :)
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: okfn.lucy.chambers at gmail.com [mailto:okfn.lucy.chambers at gmail.com] En nombre de Lucy Chambers
> Enviado el: Lunes, 12 de Septiembre de 2011 09:48
> Para: Peralta Ramos Momi (Gerente de Desarrollo Multimedia)
> CC: Carlos FIgueiredo; JeanBrice TETKA; wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org
> Asunto: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] portugal data
>
> Dear Angelica,
>
> Thanks very much for your email, I'm sorry it's taken so long to
> respond, I've been running workshops.
>
> Since we last spoke, we have had some exciting progress on
> OpenSpending, we've been training the data wranglers such as Carlos to
> be able to get the data in with a lot less input from us!
>
> We have also fixed a lot of the infrastructure so good news!, we
> should now be in a position to get your data into OpenSpending.
>
> @Carlos, would you be available at some point this week to help the
> guys in Argentina out with the initial part of their load, i.e. the
> part you are familiar with? I know you still have some questions so
> when you have done as much as you can, perhaps all of us can arrange a
> call to kill two birds with one stone and answer some of your
> question, while at the same time working with a live dataset.
>
> @Angelica - could you make sure the data on
> http://ckan.net/package/budget-argentinia is up to date and follows
> the guidelines set out here: http://wiki.openspending.org/Data_Format
> (this is slightly overhauled documentation, to make it easier for
> people to use!)
>
> Then if you could suggest a time when it would be convenient for you
> to talk, we will see when we can fit around you!
>
> All the best,
>
> Lucy
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Peralta Ramos Momi (Gerente de
> Desarrollo Multimedia) <APERALTA at lanacion.com.ar> wrote:
>> Carlos: I´m Angelica from LA NACION in Argentina (http://www.lanacion.com.ar
>> ), if you get that data in a visualization form like WDMMG please tell me
>> how, as we´ve uploaded our budget data thanks to Fredrich but I have never
>> seen the viz.
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you can help us, we have no Phython or Php developers for this
>> available but we have the best source of Data in Argentina, and we can
>> update with running budget.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tks
>>
>> Angelica
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> De: wdmmg-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org
>> [mailto:wdmmg-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org] En nombre de Carlos FIgueiredo
>> Enviado el: Viernes, 02 de Septiembre de 2011 11:59
>> Para: JeanBrice TETKA; wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org
>> Asunto: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] portugal data
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean Brice,
>>
>> I am quite new as you can see from my postings!
>> But I would recommend the following:
>>
>> 1 - Look for a good source of (official) spending data.
>> 2 - Take a look at some examples posted on the wiki.openspending.org (See
>> countries / Portugal for my case) and in ckan.net
>> (ckan.net/package/public_administration_contracts_for_portugal for example)
>> 3 - Take a look at the model requirements in the wiki as well see my model
>> for example in https://github.com/csfigu/portugal-budget-visualization
>> 4 - if you follow this path then it should be "easy" to be able to show
>> something like this.
>> 5 - Register on the wiki and on ckan and post/upload your data/models
>> progress, questions, errors, to make it easier for anyone to help you when
>> help is needed.
>>
>> Look I started this project not even a month ago, I'll try to help but I
>> guess the list is the right place to post.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carlos
>>
>> then come back to the list and post whatever questions you got.
>>
>> On 02-09-2011 11:22, JeanBrice TETKA wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I'm starting a budget tracking project for my country Cameroon, and i want
>> to use Wdmmg. Can you help me to reach your level? what can i do to get this
>> tools on line and enter data?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jean brice
>>
>> 2011/9/2 Carlos FIgueiredo <carlosmiguelfigueiredo at gmail.com>
>>
>> Hi Nick, Mark, everyone
>>
>> Glad to report data is available for Portugal in
>> http://sandbox.openspending.org/dataset/pt-contract
>>
>> Some (more) questions:
>>
>> 1 - I managed to load the 157k lines of data. It's a bit on the slow side.
>> What can be expected when we go live?
>>
>> 2 - How should incremental data be treated? Theoretically everyday this
>> database is updated.
>>
>> 3 - How can I have views with percentages and trends as in
>> http://openspending.org/dataset/italyregionalaccounts
>>
>> 4 - How could a UI with maps as in wheredoesmymoneygo.org be set up?
>>
>> 5 - I have set up (2 drilldown dimensions, region with 3 levels and
>> institutions, but I am struggling with the namings and the hierarchy
>> itself). I am also considering and planning 2 additional dimensions, one by
>> themes (education, health, military...) and another by economic activity
>> (agriculture, industry, services). Does anyone have procedures on any of
>> these 4 dimensions. I guess the obvious path to go for regions would be the
>> NUTS regions. What about the others, are there any standards we can adopt.
>>
>> I know it's a lot to deal with and I don't expect definite answers, but I
>> wanted to share these ideas and doubts.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carlos
>>
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