[wdmmg-discuss] portugal data

Lucy Chambers lucy.chambers at okfn.org
Tue Sep 13 16:54:41 UTC 2011


Hi All,

I'm afraid, due to my colleague's illness, I will be leaving the
country tomorrow to cover a workshop.

Martin, however is able to be online at 6pm UK time to help out if
both parties can make the meeting.

@All - could you please confirm that you can make the meeting (and add
Martin on Skype if you don't have him already (his name is: mk270_)
@Angelica - could you confirm whether you have had a look at the
documentation and your data is as up to date as possible?

http://wiki.openspending.org/Data_Format

Sorry I won't be on the call, but look forward to seeing what becomes of it!

Lucy

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Lucy Chambers <lucy.chambers at okfn.org> wrote:
> Dear Angelica,
>
> Great, I wouldn't worry too much about being able to programme, that
> is the reason why we are training people like Carlos, although we are
> trying to eliminate more and more of the technical aspect to make it
> easier for anyone to do!
>
> @Carlos, Argentina team - would you be able to make a call at some
> point on Wednesday to talk this over further? What times are good for
> you? I presume evening European time for Carlos will be best?
>
> Best,
>
> Lucy
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Peralta Ramos Momi (Gerente de
> Desarrollo Multimedia) <APERALTA at lanacion.com.ar> wrote:
>> Thanks Lucy! Let´s find some time for a call this week because next week I´m travelling for ten days. I´ll copy Ricardo in our team, but please take in consideration we are not Phyton programmers, Ricardo is IT Manager, but not Pyhton programmer!
>>
>> Do you suggest we go on or find some phytonist and then make our call ?
>>
>> :)
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: okfn.lucy.chambers at gmail.com [mailto:okfn.lucy.chambers at gmail.com] En nombre de Lucy Chambers
>> Enviado el: Lunes, 12 de Septiembre de 2011 09:48
>> Para: Peralta Ramos Momi (Gerente de Desarrollo Multimedia)
>> CC: Carlos FIgueiredo; JeanBrice TETKA; wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org
>> Asunto: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] portugal data
>>
>> Dear Angelica,
>>
>> Thanks very much for your email, I'm sorry it's taken so long to
>> respond, I've been running workshops.
>>
>> Since we last spoke, we have had some exciting progress on
>> OpenSpending, we've been training the data wranglers such as Carlos to
>> be able to get the data in with a lot less input from us!
>>
>> We have also fixed a lot of the infrastructure so good news!, we
>> should now be in a position to get your data into OpenSpending.
>>
>> @Carlos, would you be available at some point this week to help the
>> guys in Argentina out with the initial part of their load, i.e. the
>> part you are familiar with? I know you still have some questions so
>> when you have done as much as you can, perhaps all of us can arrange a
>> call to kill two birds with one stone and answer some of your
>> question, while at the same time working with a live dataset.
>>
>> @Angelica - could you make sure the data on
>> http://ckan.net/package/budget-argentinia is up to date and follows
>> the guidelines set out here: http://wiki.openspending.org/Data_Format
>> (this is slightly overhauled documentation, to make it easier for
>> people to use!)
>>
>> Then if you could suggest a time when it would be convenient for you
>> to talk, we will see when we can fit around you!
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Lucy
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Peralta Ramos Momi (Gerente de
>> Desarrollo Multimedia) <APERALTA at lanacion.com.ar> wrote:
>>> Carlos: I´m Angelica from LA NACION in Argentina (http://www.lanacion.com.ar
>>> ), if you get that data in a visualization form like WDMMG please tell me
>>> how, as we´ve uploaded our budget data thanks to Fredrich but I have never
>>> seen the viz.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps you can help us, we have no Phython or Php developers for this
>>> available but we have the best source of Data in Argentina, and we can
>>> update with running budget.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tks
>>>
>>> Angelica
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> De: wdmmg-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org
>>> [mailto:wdmmg-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org] En nombre de Carlos FIgueiredo
>>> Enviado el: Viernes, 02 de Septiembre de 2011 11:59
>>> Para: JeanBrice TETKA; wdmmg-discuss at lists.okfn.org
>>> Asunto: Re: [wdmmg-discuss] portugal data
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jean Brice,
>>>
>>> I am quite new as you can see from my postings!
>>> But I would recommend the following:
>>>
>>> 1 - Look for a good source of (official) spending data.
>>> 2 - Take a look at some examples posted on the wiki.openspending.org (See
>>> countries / Portugal for my case) and in ckan.net
>>> (ckan.net/package/public_administration_contracts_for_portugal for example)
>>> 3 - Take a look at the model requirements in the wiki as well see my model
>>> for example in https://github.com/csfigu/portugal-budget-visualization
>>> 4 - if you follow this path then it should be "easy" to be able to show
>>> something like this.
>>> 5 - Register on the wiki and on ckan and post/upload your data/models
>>> progress, questions, errors, to make it easier for anyone to help you when
>>> help is needed.
>>>
>>> Look I started this project not even a month ago, I'll try to help but I
>>> guess the list is the right place to post.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Carlos
>>>
>>> then come back to the list and post whatever questions you got.
>>>
>>> On 02-09-2011 11:22, JeanBrice TETKA wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm starting a budget tracking project for my country Cameroon, and i want
>>> to use Wdmmg. Can you help me to reach your level? what can i do to get this
>>> tools on line and enter data?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jean brice
>>>
>>> 2011/9/2 Carlos FIgueiredo <carlosmiguelfigueiredo at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Hi Nick, Mark, everyone
>>>
>>> Glad to report data is available for Portugal in
>>> http://sandbox.openspending.org/dataset/pt-contract
>>>
>>> Some (more) questions:
>>>
>>> 1 - I managed to load the 157k lines of data. It's a bit on the slow side.
>>> What can be expected when we go live?
>>>
>>> 2 - How should incremental data be treated? Theoretically everyday this
>>> database is updated.
>>>
>>> 3 - How can I have views with percentages and trends as in
>>> http://openspending.org/dataset/italyregionalaccounts
>>>
>>> 4 - How could a UI with maps as in wheredoesmymoneygo.org be set up?
>>>
>>> 5 - I have set up (2 drilldown dimensions, region with 3 levels and
>>> institutions, but I am struggling with the namings and the hierarchy
>>> itself). I am also considering and planning 2 additional dimensions, one by
>>> themes (education, health, military...) and another by economic activity
>>> (agriculture, industry, services). Does anyone have procedures on any of
>>> these 4 dimensions. I guess the obvious path to go for regions would be the
>>> NUTS regions. What about the others, are there any standards we can adopt.
>>>
>>> I know it's a lot to deal with and I don't expect definite answers, but I
>>> wanted to share these ideas and doubts.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Carlos
>>>
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> Lucy Chambers
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