[OpenSpending] Need Visualization + Conversation

Tue Mar 5 20:38:58 UTC 2013

Vitor -- thanks -- this is very helpful.

Is there any reason why we couldn't fork the code for
cameroon.openspending.org and host ourselves with our own domain (not a
subdomain of openspending.org)? I'm a novice coder (collaborating with
experts) so I'm not clear on some of the basics.

How do projects become subdomains of openspending.org (like Cameroon and
Slovakia)?

Thanks,

Adam

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> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 16:07:34 -0300
> From: Vitor Baptista <vitor at vitorbaptista.com>
> Subject: Re: [OpenSpending] Need Visualization + Conversation
> To: OpenSpending Discussion List <openspending at lists.okfn.org>
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> Hi Adam,
>
> It shouldn't be hard. Disqus uses the page URL to know which comments to
> show. As we already have visualizations that change the URL depending on
> its state (i.e.
>
> http://cameroon.openspending.org/en/council.html?name=tignere#/~/total--2009-
>  and
>
> http://slovakia.openspending.org/municipality/#kosice-dargovskych-hrdinov/year:2012
> ),
> all you would have to do would be to reload the right Disqus comments when
> the hash changes.
>
> They have documentation on how in
>
> http://help.disqus.com/customer/portal/articles/472107-using-disqus-on-ajax-sites
> ,
> and an example in
>
> https://github.com/disqus/DISQUS-API-Recipes/blob/master/html/disqus_reset.html
> .
>
> If you get to implement this, please send an email. This sounds like a cool
> feature :-)
>
> Cheers!
> V?tor Baptista.
>
> 2013/3/5 Adam Stiles <adam.d.stiles at gmail.com>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am part of group in Oakland, CA, USA, called Open Budget -- we've been
> > testing OpenSpending for possible use here to visualize our city budget.
> We
> > are very close to making a final decision on what we will use.
> >
> > We like OpenSpending for many reasons, but one key criteria for our
> > project -- creating a platform for citizens to *discuss* what they see
> *at
> > each level* of spending -- is making it a challenge. We imagine that, *as
> > one drills down* into the data, a new page (or more importantly, *a new
> > set of comments*) is loaded so people can discuss that particular level
> > of visualization.
> >
> > My question is this: what is the best way to use OpenSpending
> > visualizations* in combination with a commenting system*, such as Disqus
> > or something else, to achieve what I describe above? I now see --
> > offenerhaushalt.at -- could using the complete OpenSpending interface
> > allow a more seamless integration with conversation tools? How does one
> go
> > about that?
> >
> > Any suggestions welcome. And let me know if there is anyone with whom I
> > can discuss/email directly.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > >       (Tryggvi Bj?rgvinsson)
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> > > Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:26:38 +0000
> > > From: Tryggvi Bj?rgvinsson <tryggvi.bjorgvinsson at okfn.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [OpenSpending] openspending.at - how to display data
> > >         tables?
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> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Vitor's reply explained how things are usually done (which I think is a
> > > pretty good approach - let openspending.org manage the analytical part
> > > and create site that don't require as much processing power).
> > >
> > > However, you might have thought long and carefully about installing
> your
> > > own version at offenerhaushalt.at and decided it would be best for
> you.
> > > If that's the case, the following is really interesting to me:
> > >
> > > On Thu 28.feb 2013 12:56, Krabina Bernhard wrote:
> > >> Furthermore we want to fund some development on the software. Parts of
> > it will be usable on the internatonal site as well (e. g.
> > Visualisation/Tables per capita). Other parts will make no sense in an
> > international platform: e. g. we calculate indicators based on the
> > municipal budgets. And budgeting in Austria is quite different from other
> > countries (see
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-entry_bookkeeping_system )
> > >
> > > In my opinion we should collaborate closely when you start your
> > > development, especially on the bits that are usable on the
> international
> > > site. I'm also not certain that the parts you think make no sense for
> > > the international platform are that irrelevant. I think it would come
> > > down to how things are implemented.
> > >
> > > I would recommend we try as hard as we can to incorporate things into
> > > the (international) openspending platform. This is a rather big piece
> of
> > > software and creating new development branches (forking the code)
> > > usually create more problems than they solve (for example, applying
> > > security fixes to one might be difficult for the other). With open
> > > source software forking is usually one of the last things developers
> > > want to do (because of the problems it brings).
> > >
> > > We should continue this discussion on the openspending-dev list. Are
> you
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> > > /Tryggvi
> > >
> > >
> > >
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