[OpenSpending] Moving discussion to http://discuss.okfn.org

Sat Mar 21 18:16:24 UTC 2015

So, my 2 cents, which are similar to what Rufus said:

* They both currently exist anyway (and there are 2 different mailman lists at present as far as I know)
* In terms of the discussion around OK <> OS: I see no difference between lists.okfn.org and discuss.okfn.org <http://discuss.okfn.org/>
* Mailman is totally for geeks :), Discourse is much more welcoming to a wider audience

> On 21 Mar 2015, at 20:08, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
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> On 21 March 2015 at 16:33, Tryggvi Björgvinsson <tryggvi.bjorgvinsson at okfn.org <mailto:tryggvi.bjorgvinsson at okfn.org>> wrote:
> I'm actually opposed to this.
> 
> In my mind, OpenSpending is separate from Open Knowledge, even if Open Knowledge is the initiator and currently the biggest supporter of the project and provides all of the infrastructure. I would like others to be able to support OpenSpending as much (or even more).
> 
> No disagreement on key point that OpenSpending has multiple stakeholders - however, think that does not necessarily imply anything here.
> 
> I know the email list is at an @lists.okfn.org <http://lists.okfn.org/> address, but I still feel that it's a more independent approach to continue to use the mailing list than having the discussion take place in a special category on an Open Knowledge discussion forum. In my mind, we'd make the project even more dependent on Open Knowledge than it has to be.
> 
> I think we can see the discourse forum and the mailman lists as pretty analogous here. In both cases you have someone someone hosting the site / infrastructure and that does not imply something big about the specific project. If this really became an issue in the future I'm sure we could find a migration path.
> 
> If we proceed on that assumption, then the question is what is the best infrastructure for supporting the community, especially *near-term* (i.e. the next year or so). Mailman is increasingly aging (as are mailing lists generally), and Discourse seems a great, easier to use and manage alternative. To spell out some advantages of Discourse over mailman:
> 
> - Easy to deploy and manage
> - A decent (good) management UK
> - Very easy for less tech/geeky users to sign up for, use etc (mailman has a real issue now with sign up messages getting spammed etc. one user recently on mailman did not realize their messages had got rejected / discarded as they posted from a non-signed up address)
> - Better threading / topic management
> - A web UI
> - Topic archiving / locking
> - A decent API
> - Increasing number of integrations
> 
> Rufus
>  
> This might be weird coming from me, but this is my personal opinion (disclaimer: I work for Open Knowledge).
> 
> /Tryggvi
> 
> 
> On lau 21.mar 2015 13:29, Rufus Pollock wrote:
>> I strongly second this suggestion.
>> 
>> What do others think?
>> 
>> Rufus
>> 
>> On 8 March 2015 at 12:52, Paul Walsh <paulywalsh at gmail.com <mailto:paulywalsh at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Open Knowledge has a discourse instance running for discussions. How about moving this list onto there, so we do not need to follow multiple sources of information?
>> 
>> Here is the Open Spending category: http://discuss.okfn.org/category/openspending <http://discuss.okfn.org/category/openspending>
>> 
>> Any thoughts on this?
>> 
>> Paul
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