[pd-discuss] Fwd: [Wikimedia Education] Public Domain Detective and other ways we might collaborate

Wed Dec 19 22:24:45 UTC 2012

Reforwarding.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Public Domain Detective and other ways
we might collaborate
To: Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>, pd-discuss at lists.okfn.org
Cc: okfn-boston at googlegroups.com, Jane Park <janepark at creativecommons.org>,
Adam Green <adam.green at okfn.org>, Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org>, Joris Pekel
<joris.pekel at okfn.org>, Primavera De Filippi <primavera.defilippi at okfn.org>

Too many lists!  How I wish my Coralline message system was up and
running...

Okay, here's what we need:

STATS:
A set of bite-sized stats we can compile about the "PD Delta Function" that
goes into effect Jan 1.  Number of pages, number of derivatives or related
works made, number of historical readers.

A similar set of stats about last year's crop.  Including the year's data
on how things have changed:  the (change in) the number of sales of works;
the number of Google hits for searches, the number of sites making works
available online, the number of refs to such works in research?

VISUALS:
A good fast snarky designer.  I have the Cards Against Humanity guys in
mind because of their fun recent wikimedia stunt,[1] but anyone will do.

An [annual] poster summarizing such data.  Prototype for a future year, for
instance.  This can be a canonical web-infographic b/c of limited time.

ONE DOWNLOAD:
A torrent that we can encourage everyone to seed and download.  Someone
gets to be responsible for compiling the darn thing by Dec. 31 and posting
it at the new year.  This is "as complete as it can be made on the morning
of Dec. 31"

METADATA LIST:
A spreadsheet with metadata of things entering PD, including a canonical
link for a page that will contain the (revised over time) links to sources.
 We get to choose where that link goes, but it should be an archive that
will host such a page permanently for each work.  Wikisource is ok if
there's no obvious alternative.  OL is only for books, unfortunately.  An
archive that generates and maintains UUIDs would be even better.

If we have those four things, this will be a smashing hit.  Other thigns
like trying to make the lst comprehensive will take time and can be a goal
for next PD Day.

SJ

[1] http://www.cardsagainsthumanity.com/holidaystats/

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:

> (Copying Primavera)
>
> *Sigh*. Yes, we've been wanting to do this for years with our Public
> Domain Works project [1]. And I'm sure you've seen our work on the Public
> Domain Calculators [2]. I wanted to start doing more on this last year [3]
> - but alas other things got in the way.
>
> SJ: suggest that we could start a thread on this on the pd-discuss list
> [4], and I'll pitch in there so that others can join in our conversation.
> Perhaps we can organise a call and a virtual sprint on this in the new year?
>
> In any case, short answer: yes, we should definitely do something and we'd
> love to work with you to make this happen. ;-)
>
> All the best,
>
> Jonathan
>
> [1] http://publicdomainworks.net/
> [2] http://publicdomain.okfn.org/calculators/
> [3] http://blog.okfn.org/2011/07/06/lets-open-up-the-public-domain/
> [4] http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/pd-discuss
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Copying the Boston-area OKFN folks - this would be a lovely holiday
>> project for anyone interested in Public Domain advocacy and PD Day !
>>
>> Jane - I'm free to skype starting an hour from now if you are :)
>>
>> SJ
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> (1) A single place to find AS MANY of the creators whose works are
>>> falling into the public domain in at least one country AS possible.
>>> * Put out a call for participation; including to the pages that
>>> currently track a subset of this online.  Scrape from those pages, +
>>> recognize and link to them.
>>> * List a set of places to extract data from.  The Wikipedia list of
>>> deaths by year?  Okay, but... look for even better sources.  Check that
>>> page in other languages.
>>>
>>> (2) For each creator, a list of all of their works: from plays to
>>> stories to diaries to letter, and where those are gathered.  Note any
>>> available metadata, start organizing it in a semantic way.
>>>
>>> (3) For each work, a list of all known formats and responsible curators.
>>>  Archives, physical repositories, bad non-OCR'ed digital scans, digital
>>> texts, the works.
>>>  ---> Start putting those things together and online now.  There's no
>>> need to wait.  (at least in the US by the time anyone could file a motion
>>> to take them down, they will be PD.)  Take advantage of this to make
>>> collaboration on cleaning up their existing (meta)data easier.
>>>  ---> Find a host, like the I.Archive or ideally some OKFN/PDR site,
>>> that is happy to host the material while it's being worked on.
>>>
>>> (4 a) For each digital work, a way to browse or download them.
>>>
>>> (4 b) For the collection: a way to browse through them.  A way to
>>> download the entire collection; and the collection broken up by major
>>> category (at most a dozen or so). (a torrent would be ideal)
>>>
>>> Simplest browsing: a series of cover thumbnails.  Find a digital media
>>> repo tool that supports more than just text, if possible; use that.
>>>  Hopefully something like Miro can manage this.  The goal we care about in
>>> this case should be sending the strongest possible message of the bounty
>>> and glory of the collection being released from its proscriptions.
>>>
>>>
>>> SJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:07 AM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> (Cc'ing Adam, Editor of Public Domain Review and Sam and Joris from
>>>> OpenGLAM)
>>>>
>>>> We're always interested in having more people involved in
>>>> finding/working with public domain works. :-)
>>>>
>>>> SJ: what were you thinking of preparing for PD day?
>>>>
>>>> J.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Jonathan Gray <j.gray at cantab.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: *Jane Park*
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2012
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Public Domain Detective and other
>>>>> ways we might collaborate
>>>>> To: Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: Jonathan Gray <j.gray at cantab.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey SJ, would you still like to work on the PD detective challenge?
>>>>> I'm going on holiday at the end of the week, but would love to touch base
>>>>> with you if you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the work to date that Molly Kleinman has been doing to revamp
>>>>> the challenge at http://pad.p2pu.org/p/Public_domain_detective. Here
>>>>> is the challenge as it exists:
>>>>> https://p2pu.org/en/groups/applied-open-discovering-and-contributing-to-the-public-domain/
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jane
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can come up with challenges :)
>>>>> JGray - what do you say?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Jane Park <
>>>>> janepark at creativecommons.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey SJ - currently just what I mentioned above, having a School of
>>>>> Open challenge ready to take by PD day/week. Would you guys be interested
>>>>> in contributing to this? :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jane!  I want to do something awesome for public domain day week, with
>>>>> jonathan gray and the PD review and the like.  are you already planning
>>>>> anything like this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Jane Park <
>>>>> janepark at creativecommons.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm Jane Park with CC and coordinating the P2PU School of Open
>>>>> initiative. More on that here: http://schoolofopen.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Elly suggested I forward to this list since there is a lot of overlap
>>>>> (and several P2PU courses have already been developed in collaboration with
>>>>> Wikipedia folks).
>>>>>
>>>>> We are currently looking for people to take over development ofPublic Domain Detective and improving it in time for Public Domain Day (Jan
>>>>> 1, 2013)
>>>>> https://p2pu.org/en/groups/applied-open-discovering-and-contributing-to-the-public-domain/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://publicdomainday.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Ping me if interested! Also feel free to take a look at the other
>>>>> courses in development/draft at schoolofopen.org to see if you're
>>>>> interested in helping to develop those or start a new one. Mailing list
>>>>> info is also all there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jane
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: *Jane Park* <janepark at creativecommons.org>
>>>>> Date: Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:47 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [school-of-open] Digest for
>>>>> school-of-open at googlegroups.com - 4 Messages in 3 Topics
>>>>> To: school-of-open at googlegroups.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>>> http://jonathangray.org
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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