[pd-discuss] Activities for Public Domain Day 2013

Thu Jan 3 15:55:16 UTC 2013

Hi all
last year the folks from Wikimedia France had done something pretty neat:
http://journeedudomainepublic.fr/ils-rejoignent-le-domaine-public-en-2012/
I'm not sure how it is done, but it would be great if we could do something
similar for 2013 with a more international flavor maybe   :)
Do any of you knows how to create something like that?
I will ask Wikimedia France if they can help out maybe.
That way we could create a sophisticated query for freebase or dbpedia and
have the results displayed nicely in a table - I'd like to put such a table
on publicdomainday.org   :)

Samuel: what is your availability for a chat?
(i also need to ask you a personal favor I think :)

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a list of almost 800 people reconciled with Freebase which
>> represents a combination of the original Freebase lists that I did for
>> Adrian plus all the entries for the authorandbookinfo.com that I was
>> able to reconcile with Freebase.  There are another 400+ people from
>> authoandbookinfo plus crowd sourced contributions which don't
>> currently have Freebase or English Wikipedia entries.
>>
>
> Nice.
>
> Is there a canonical place to work on shared queries and data?
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > +1, and happy new year to all.  we could use a query that excludes works
>> > that were already PD.   I asked some friends who work a lot with
>> freebase if
>> > they had ideas for helping further weed out translations.
>>
>> I've worked with Freebase for 4 years and provided the query Adrian
>> used.  The Freebase schema has explicit support for translations, but
>> because most source data (ie MARC records) doesn't make it easy to
>> identify translations, the schema isn't well populated.
>>
>
> Awesome.  So we should fix this for the authors on the list, as part of
> the PD celebration.
> What's the simplest way to update the Freebase schema as I work?
>
>
>> I would just make a blanket statement saying "doesn't include
>> translations," but if you wanted to make an attempt to identify them
>> explicitly, my suggestions would be:
>>
>
> I was imagining including general guidance, noting (c) pitfalls and
> potential sources of error.
> (An author or work could be misidentified, a translation missed, &c.)
>
>
>> Personally, I wouldn't even try to be authoritative and would instead
>> put the onus on the reader to make sure they are in compliance with
>> the laws of their jurisdiction.
>>
>
> At the end of the day, the extent to which we've contributed to the public
> domain is directly tied to how authoritative and comprehensive the
> information we provide is.
>
> Tweeting "Works by some authors who died in 1942 are now PD: read these
> laws and logs."  is a bit useful to some people.
>
> Publishing a full dataset of  {work, authors, country, date entering PD},
> for every combination of {work, country} with a date sometime in 2013,
> is more useful to more people.
>
> Publishing such a dataset in a repository that allows public annotation
> and updates would be more useful still, and would set a fine standard (as
> well as a template for processing such metadata for works before they time
> out).
>
>
>> If you did want to attempt to individually identify copyright clear
>> volumes, another source of information is the Hathi data since they
>> individually clear each volume with human review.
>>
>
> Great point.  Do you know how to query that data for the above info?  Do
> they offer jurisdiction breakdowns on copyright status, or a window into
> their own deliberations?  Something like
> "suspected to be PD: yes.  confirmed: no."
> "date suspected of becoming PD: March 14, 2013 (EU), Jan 1, 2019 (US), ..."
>
> SJ
>
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