[pd-discuss] Activities for Public Domain Day 2013

Thu Jan 3 23:29:33 UTC 2013

Yes, that list is beautiful.  And WM-FR is a fun group to work with.

It is still limited to people who produced literature or art I think [I
doubt those who only wrote an autobiography or memoir would appear] but
combines a number of useful person-categories.  They seem to have gotten
them directly from WP queries; we could do the same from freebase.

Are you on CET?  I am currently free for the next ~12 hours or so.
 Warmly, SJ

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Primavera De Filippi <
primavera.defilippi at okfn.org> wrote:

> Hi all
> last year the folks from Wikimedia France had done something pretty neat:
> http://journeedudomainepublic.fr/ils-rejoignent-le-domaine-public-en-2012/
> I'm not sure how it is done, but it would be great if we could do
> something similar for 2013 with a more international flavor maybe   :)
> Do any of you knows how to create something like that?
> I will ask Wikimedia France if they can help out maybe.
> That way we could create a sophisticated query for freebase or dbpedia and
> have the results displayed nicely in a table - I'd like to put such a table
> on publicdomainday.org   :)
>
> Samuel: what is your availability for a chat?
> (i also need to ask you a personal favor I think :)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a list of almost 800 people reconciled with Freebase which
>>> represents a combination of the original Freebase lists that I did for
>>> Adrian plus all the entries for the authorandbookinfo.com that I was
>>> able to reconcile with Freebase.  There are another 400+ people from
>>> authoandbookinfo plus crowd sourced contributions which don't
>>> currently have Freebase or English Wikipedia entries.
>>>
>>
>> Nice.
>>
>> Is there a canonical place to work on shared queries and data?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > +1, and happy new year to all.  we could use a query that excludes
>>> works
>>> > that were already PD.   I asked some friends who work a lot with
>>> freebase if
>>> > they had ideas for helping further weed out translations.
>>>
>>> I've worked with Freebase for 4 years and provided the query Adrian
>>> used.  The Freebase schema has explicit support for translations, but
>>> because most source data (ie MARC records) doesn't make it easy to
>>> identify translations, the schema isn't well populated.
>>>
>>
>> Awesome.  So we should fix this for the authors on the list, as part of
>> the PD celebration.
>> What's the simplest way to update the Freebase schema as I work?
>>
>>
>>> I would just make a blanket statement saying "doesn't include
>>> translations," but if you wanted to make an attempt to identify them
>>> explicitly, my suggestions would be:
>>>
>>
>> I was imagining including general guidance, noting (c) pitfalls and
>> potential sources of error.
>> (An author or work could be misidentified, a translation missed, &c.)
>>
>>
>>> Personally, I wouldn't even try to be authoritative and would instead
>>> put the onus on the reader to make sure they are in compliance with
>>> the laws of their jurisdiction.
>>>
>>
>> At the end of the day, the extent to which we've contributed to the
>> public domain is directly tied to how authoritative and comprehensive the
>> information we provide is.
>>
>> Tweeting "Works by some authors who died in 1942 are now PD: read these
>> laws and logs."  is a bit useful to some people.
>>
>> Publishing a full dataset of  {work, authors, country, date entering PD},
>> for every combination of {work, country} with a date sometime in 2013,
>> is more useful to more people.
>>
>> Publishing such a dataset in a repository that allows public annotation
>> and updates would be more useful still, and would set a fine standard (as
>> well as a template for processing such metadata for works before they time
>> out).
>>
>>
>>> If you did want to attempt to individually identify copyright clear
>>> volumes, another source of information is the Hathi data since they
>>> individually clear each volume with human review.
>>>
>>
>> Great point.  Do you know how to query that data for the above info?  Do
>> they offer jurisdiction breakdowns on copyright status, or a window into
>> their own deliberations?  Something like
>> "suspected to be PD: yes.  confirmed: no."
>> "date suspected of becoming PD: March 14, 2013 (EU), Jan 1, 2019 (US),
>> ..."
>>
>> SJ
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