[Pdr] Fwd: Music on The Public Domain Review

Mon Feb 18 10:00:59 UTC 2013

Looks good to me!

@Adam - you happy to get back to him or I can...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Thomas HENRY <thomashenry81 at gmail.com>
Date: 15 February 2013 19:02
Subject: Re: Music on The Public Domain Review
To: Adam Green <adam.green at okfn.org>, Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org>

Hi Adam, Hi Sam,

Sorry for this very long silence. I've been terribly busy in the past two
months.
Thanks a lot for these precisions regarding the kind of records I could
write about for the Public Domain Review.
I think I found something that could fit your conditions. I own four 78rpm
records of Congolese traditional music made in 1946 by the French
"Ogooue-Congo" Ethnographic mission for the Paris-based Musée de l'Homme
(more details here if you can read French:
http://archives.crem-cnrs.fr/archives/corpus/CNRSMH_Rouget_001/).

Recorded made prior to 1963 and written by someone who died before 1943, as
it's traditional music: would it be OK ? Would you be interested in such a
subject (there are many things to write about these records and this
ethnographic mission).

Let me know. Best wishes.

Thomas

2012/12/14 Adam Green <adam.green at okfn.org>

> Hi Thomas,
>
> Adam here the editor of the PDR. Great to meet you, and I follow in Sam's
> praise of your wonderful blog!
>
> Regarding your question concerning recordings belonging to record
> companies that don't exist anymore, this might take care of the recording
> rights but unfortunately the copyright on the music itself would still be
> with the composer of the song.
>
> Although it varies from country to country, there is basically two kinds
> of copyright at play in relation to music:
>
> 1) Copyright on the actual recording, which record companies tend to own.
>
> 2) Copyright on the songs/music itself - which is normally owned by the
> composer of the music.
>
> In the EU at the moment its 50 years for (1) and 70 years for (2).
>
> Maybe the best place to start is to look through your oldest stuff, or
> music based on traditional songs (where the composer would have died before
> 1943). If you like we can definitely help you try and find the death date
> for composers - though I understand it isn't always going to be easy!
>
> Let us know how you get on.
>
> All the best,
>
> Adam.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12 December 2012 15:53, Thomas HENRY <thomashenry81 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sam,
>>
>> Thanks for your message and for these precisions.
>>
>> I will check my collection and see which records match these conditions.
>> 78rpm records are sometimes difficult to date, and most of the time I
>> don't know exactly when the person who wrote the songs died. Let's see what
>> I will find.
>>
>> I wanted to propose you a collection of 10 Soviet songs on 78rpm, but
>> some of them were recorded in the late 40's or even in the 50's, by artists
>> who died later. I guess it makes no difference for a country (USSR) and
>> state-owned records companies that don't exist anymore, right ?
>>
>> I let you know.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> 2012/12/12 Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org>
>>
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>
>>> Meet Adam, the Editor at The Public Domain Review, Adam meet Thomas the
>>> genius behind ceintsdebakelite.com!
>>>
>>> Basically, to re-cap on what I emailed about earlier this year, we're
>>> looking for curators who we trust and admire to put together coherent and
>>> interesting collections of 10-15 tracks of public domain music
>>> of particular genre or theme for publication on The Public Domain Review.
>>>
>>> Basically, we'd love to see what kind of ideas you had for themes, or
>>> genres, given that you've now had a look at the website itself and you
>>> clearly have an amazing knowledge of music.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, and as you are no doubt aware, copyright is a bit more
>>> complex when applied to music than to other works of art as there are
>>> multiple layers of rights (recording, song-writing etc).
>>>
>>> In essence we're looking for music that is in the public domain (for
>>> which copyright has expired) in the EU. As a guideline, we're basically
>>> looking for either songs i) recorded and written by someone who died prior
>>> to 1943 or ii) recorded prior to 1963, but written by someone who died
>>> before 1943 i.e. traditional songs.
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts?
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sam Leon
>>> Community Coordinator
>>> Open Knowledge Foundation
>>> http://okfn.org/
>>> Skype: samedleon
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Adam Green
>
> Editor, The Public Domain Review
> http://publicdomainreview.org/
>
> The Open Knowledge Foundation
> http://okfn.org/
>

-- 
Sam Leon
Project Manager
Open Knowledge Foundation
http://okfn.org/
Skype: samedleon
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/private/pdr/attachments/20130218/671b0db3/attachment.html>