[Pdr] Fwd: Music on The Public Domain Review

Adam Green adam.green at okfn.org
Mon Feb 18 12:20:14 UTC 2013


yes looks great. didn't expect him to want to write an article but
perhaps this could work well. i'll take it from here

On 18 February 2013 11:00, Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org> wrote:
> Looks good to me!
>
> @Adam - you happy to get back to him or I can...
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Thomas HENRY <thomashenry81 at gmail.com>
> Date: 15 February 2013 19:02
> Subject: Re: Music on The Public Domain Review
> To: Adam Green <adam.green at okfn.org>, Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org>
>
>
> Hi Adam, Hi Sam,
>
> Sorry for this very long silence. I've been terribly busy in the past two
> months.
> Thanks a lot for these precisions regarding the kind of records I could
> write about for the Public Domain Review.
> I think I found something that could fit your conditions. I own four 78rpm
> records of Congolese traditional music made in 1946 by the French
> "Ogooue-Congo" Ethnographic mission for the Paris-based Musée de l'Homme
> (more details here if you can read French:
> http://archives.crem-cnrs.fr/archives/corpus/CNRSMH_Rouget_001/).
>
> Recorded made prior to 1963 and written by someone who died before 1943, as
> it's traditional music: would it be OK ? Would you be interested in such a
> subject (there are many things to write about these records and this
> ethnographic mission).
>
> Let me know. Best wishes.
>
> Thomas
>
> 2012/12/14 Adam Green <adam.green at okfn.org>
>>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> Adam here the editor of the PDR. Great to meet you, and I follow in Sam's
>> praise of your wonderful blog!
>>
>> Regarding your question concerning recordings belonging to record
>> companies that don't exist anymore, this might take care of the recording
>> rights but unfortunately the copyright on the music itself would still be
>> with the composer of the song.
>>
>> Although it varies from country to country, there is basically two kinds
>> of copyright at play in relation to music:
>>
>> 1) Copyright on the actual recording, which record companies tend to own.
>>
>> 2) Copyright on the songs/music itself - which is normally owned by the
>> composer of the music.
>>
>> In the EU at the moment its 50 years for (1) and 70 years for (2).
>>
>> Maybe the best place to start is to look through your oldest stuff, or
>> music based on traditional songs (where the composer would have died before
>> 1943). If you like we can definitely help you try and find the death date
>> for composers - though I understand it isn't always going to be easy!
>>
>> Let us know how you get on.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Adam.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12 December 2012 15:53, Thomas HENRY <thomashenry81 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sam,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your message and for these precisions.
>>>
>>> I will check my collection and see which records match these conditions.
>>> 78rpm records are sometimes difficult to date, and most of the time I
>>> don't know exactly when the person who wrote the songs died. Let's see what
>>> I will find.
>>>
>>> I wanted to propose you a collection of 10 Soviet songs on 78rpm, but
>>> some of them were recorded in the late 40's or even in the 50's, by artists
>>> who died later. I guess it makes no difference for a country (USSR) and
>>> state-owned records companies that don't exist anymore, right ?
>>>
>>> I let you know.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> 2012/12/12 Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>
>>>> Meet Adam, the Editor at The Public Domain Review, Adam meet Thomas the
>>>> genius behind ceintsdebakelite.com!
>>>>
>>>> Basically, to re-cap on what I emailed about earlier this year, we're
>>>> looking for curators who we trust and admire to put together coherent and
>>>> interesting collections of 10-15 tracks of public domain music of particular
>>>> genre or theme for publication on The Public Domain Review.
>>>>
>>>> Basically, we'd love to see what kind of ideas you had for themes, or
>>>> genres, given that you've now had a look at the website itself and you
>>>> clearly have an amazing knowledge of music.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, and as you are no doubt aware, copyright is a bit more
>>>> complex when applied to music than to other works of art as there are
>>>> multiple layers of rights (recording, song-writing etc).
>>>>
>>>> In essence we're looking for music that is in the public domain (for
>>>> which copyright has expired) in the EU. As a guideline, we're basically
>>>> looking for either songs i) recorded and written by someone who died prior
>>>> to 1943 or ii) recorded prior to 1963, but written by someone who died
>>>> before 1943 i.e. traditional songs.
>>>>
>>>> What are your thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>> Sam
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sam Leon
>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>> Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>> http://okfn.org/
>>>> Skype: samedleon
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Adam Green
>>
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>> http://publicdomainreview.org/
>>
>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>> http://okfn.org/
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