[Product] POD

Tue Mar 18 13:19:09 UTC 2014

Hi Thomas,

I have started a google doc
here<https://docs.google.com/a/okfn.org/document/d/1Re_Th-DlMu3P7pel35_xa9uieDd5I5GqhI9kYFNf7_c/edithttps://docs.google.com/a/okfn.org/document/d/1Re_Th-DlMu3P7pel35_xa9uieDd5I5GqhI9kYFNf7_c/edit>,
which I will start populating today with relavant information that might
help shape the discussion. I agree that it would be really useful to
collect information for different types of users and contributors and make
this easy to access.

I would love to have see something happening in Berlin around product data
and think that as a group we should submit a proposal (end date for call -
March 30th). Although there will be other opportunities to run break out
sessions at the festival, I think it is better to propose a session or two
in advance to be on the official festival agenda!

Looking forward to working together,
Katelyn

On 18 March 2014 13:05, TLMCN <thomas at enventeco.co.uk> wrote:

> - Yes! Google Doc laying out the next steps.
>
> - Would also like to see something that lays out where the project is at
> the moment in terms of resources, infrastructure, agreements, partnerships,
> contributors, defining customers etc. so that anyone coming on board can
> get an immediate overview of the project and its potential.
>
> - If we focus on making POD useful to end users and 'customers'; building
> benefits and features, making contributing to the data base easier we can
> definitely get more people to engage.
>
> - "Source databases of barcodes from organisations that wish to promote
> their clients products and add additional layers of information, interest
> for end users" have seen an agreement between OKFn and The World Bank to
> support open data in the developing world. Seems like there is an
> opportunity to connect the two here through POD via organisations that
> already have a presence in the developing world such as Fairtrade.
>
> - Recommend a deadline of July to get everything together so that we can
> present at OKFest in Berlin.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>wrote:
>
>> Jumping in here but would love to hear from others :-)
>>
>> On 12 March 2014 15:56, TLMCN <thomas at enventeco.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Would really like to hear from anybody that can give me some background
>>> on the current state of the project, regarding the database architecture,
>>> vision and sources of data.
>>>
>>
>>  A bunch of information on the database structure can be found here:
>> https://github.com/okfn/product-browser-web
>>
>> There's also info on http://product.okfn.org/
>>
>>
>>> Source databases of barcodes from organisations that wish to promote
>>> their clients products and add additional layers of information, interest
>>> for end users.
>>>
>>
>> Strong +1 here - this seems an excellent idea.
>>
>>
>>> - Fairtrade Association
>>> - Soil Association
>>> - Other certificate organizations
>>> - iZettle, mobile payment companies product library
>>>
>>> There should be an input interface/ procedure/ app for garnering this
>>> information as much as possible. POD should make itself as useful to
>>> consumers as possible, showing them where there may be conflicts between
>>> their purchasing decisions and psychometric values. Another feature could
>>> be a function for households or businesses to help with shopping.
>>>
>>
>> I agree we need to make input easy though we also want to ensure good
>> quality. One thing would be to extend the Android and iOS apps to support
>> input, as well as to make it clearer how to contribute data in bulk.
>>
>>
>>> - Scan barcode from a phone or laptop webcam
>>> - Get product information by removing the labelling and placing it in a
>>> flatbed scanner to make it more readily machine readable and identify
>>> tables of ingredients, nutritional guidance, recycling information etc.
>>>
>>
>> these seem good though it may be even better to focus on getting bulk
>> data from key sources (one bulk source may equate to millions of single
>> contributions).
>>
>>
>>> Not clear what the status of the mIData legislation is, only that the
>>> consultation period is now concluded, an amendment to the legislation could
>>> be considered to make it a legal requirement for companies/ importers/
>>> producers to disclose barcode information.
>>>
>>> Will also look at different choke points such as ports and their
>>> infrastructure for keeping track of the goods passing through.
>>>
>>> I have many more ideas about how to make this work and encourage people
>>> to contribute to the database also.
>>>
>>
>> What about booting a google doc for us to collate suggestions on the
>> immediate next steps especially about getting more data.
>>
>>
>>> Please let me know what you think and involve me in any solution that
>>> you are trying to build as well so we can see about pooling resources to
>>> make this come true.
>>>
>>
>> Its great to have you involved and let's move this forward :-)
>>
>> Rufus
>>
>>
>
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