[wsfii-discuss] Economic Sustainability of Community Wireless(sorry had to resend due to incorrect hyperlink)

Fri Apr 6 05:50:33 UTC 2007

Ramon,
     Your point clearly brings in the difference of approach in a developing
country & developed.
Who won't love the FREEdom .  Today I do not have anything to choose from,
so well as might let me make choice.
The community networks however we deny requires huge leadership  & a large
seed capital.  The cooperative movement is missing. In India the the last
successful cooperative happened some 40 years ago.  & I cannot keep waiting
for it to revive . My need is for TODAY.

The Emerging economy actually needs the cutting technology the most but
don't have that  leadership.  Only Social entrepreneurship  can succeed ,
with some profits instead of no profits to remain independent.

The comparison is like between a Walmart & E-bay.   They both may make many
unhappy but at least have a choice.  & of course WSFII can show case more
model which have been successful & under what circumstances. Djursland was
lucky to have Bjarke .  So either  we should  set up a large scale Human
clone facility .  or leave  it to free enterprise . Just make all the
secrets open. ( which any way we are doing ) . there will be little left in
throttling an enterprise.
The Enterprise pays for execution & not hot talk shop which are indulging .
;-) .

Thus I completely agree with you  but as I don't see an Angel around  &  I
am reluctantly ready to settle with lesser evil.

Ashish

On 4/5/07, Ramon Roca <ramon.roca at guifi.net> wrote:
>
> En/na Assoc of Public ICT Tools Access Prov ha escrit:
> >
> >
> > So if Voice is a killer app & if you can help bring a plan where you
> > can not only reduce your budget  & maybe as well Profit from
> > Participation, like a FON http://www.fon.com/en/ . by investing
> > nominal money.
> Good news to see interest from IT companies in developing technology
> suitable for developing wireless communities/entrepreneurs.
> Having said that, be careful with the examples mentioned and be away
> from any confusion. In this case, although there is an intensive use of
> the "community" aesthetics and philanthropist look, is a private held
> company, and in reality their attitude has been aggressive to any other
> community which is not them or denying any form of net neutrality:
> Instead of helping communities or providing broadband access to
> everyone, they are only interested in who already have broadband access
> and give it to them for free to resell to those who don't have, forcing
> to be a only provider.
> Please note that their model is very much invasive (only works if the
> private company is dominant) and parasite (feeded by those who already
> have something to give away).
>
> And since they started they operations, and is going to be 2 years from
> now, they have been very loyal to their principles, with no exception,
> and no changes, although have been several times warned about all of this.
>
> Just think twice, if that model works, we'll have just another monopoly.
> Don't listen just the nice words they say, please look to what they do
> and what's really behind.
>
> I would not say that's any model of economic sustainability. There is a
> lots of other better examples.
>
>
>

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