[wsfii-discuss] Workshops at WSFII Africa 2007

Wed Apr 25 21:29:49 UTC 2007

hello jeff, fred and all ...

please make sure that nobody of you will try to put HIS stamp onto
anybody else ...

@ jeff: would u please explain a little further what u had in mind. i
mean, which kind of roleplay u see for OVF within the WSFII? and maybe
even critically reflect it yourself ...?

@ fred: would u please explain, in how far u believe that there could be
ONE modell of organisation, social and technological solution, to export
and adopt to everywhere in the world? maybe u allready guess some might
disagree with this attitude?

in general i wouldnt see so much importance in the labelling. i think a
useful label will adopt to the local circumstances and is best chosen by
the local activists. freifunk is a good choice for german speakers,
opendiv might be good for the geeks of the western world ... yeah, and
so on. so what?

grts, marco, berlin

Fred Pook wrote:
> Hi Jeff
>
> I would like to see that booklet, where do i find it?
> Also i want to make it clear that opendiv has not much to do with One
> Village Foundation...
> I am not sure what One Village Foundation is and what it actually does
> in the real world. Jeff, please stop confusing our goal with more
> words. Produce, Create, Do It in the real world. Up to now One Village
> Foundation, in EM radio terms, has just been noise..
>
> Correct me and produce real material, real funding
> or get out of this movement because our goal is real Independence
>
> OVF is on the edge...
>
> Thanks Freddy
>
>
>
> On 4/25/07, jeff buderer <jeff at onevillagefoundation.org> wrote:
>> Fred,
>>
>> We need to get this idea of OpenDIV sorted out.
>>
>> I feel it may be confusing people with regards to all these different
>> names Resources Centers, OpenDIV and Open Digital Village.
>>
>> I feel the name is not important really the convergence of people
>> around empowering networks is.
>>
>> However OVF has recently invested a lot in the naming Open Digital
>> Village and a booklet has actually been published on it that we plan to
>> post online soon.
>>
>> So I'd like us to get clear on how this what we have done relates to
>> Open Div.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> This process of linking and sharing resources is what opendiv.org is
>> for. the website of OpenDiv will contain best practices and announce
>> and collect data from worldwide "Free Information Infrastructures".
>>
>> The actual networks are, if we agree on it or if each community agrees
>> on it, called OpenDiv.net like the one in Winneba would be called
>> winneba.opendiv.net . the structure of these networks will be based on
>> the experiences at FreiFunk.net since they have the most worked out
>> experience in this field. In fact the thinking for opendiv.org is just
>> freifunk.net but because nobody can pronounce or understand the word
>> freifunk, a new word was made up and that is opendiv.
>>
>> Gathering and Meetings, Workshop etc. are done by WSFII (World Summits
>> on Free Information Infrastructures) as usual.
>>
>> Sorry , if earlier I did not explain the roles of the 4 structures,
>>
>> Thanks Freddy
>>
>> On 4/25/07, Thomas M. <tmaketa at allequal.org> wrote:
>> > I'm more and more thinking of linking all wireless network of Africa
>> into an
>> > association where we could plan and share resources, Association with
>> more
>> > experience like Wireless Ghana could share experience with association
>> busy
>> > being created like those of Congo and others...
>> >
>> > The funding is a real problem we are facing the same thing and in fact
>> we
>> > noticed that we have become ourselves the funder!!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4/25/07, Fred Pook <fredpook at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Thanks for the good work, Marco,Daniel and Kloschi!
>> > >
>> > > Opendiv.org aka http://opendigitalvillage.org is shaping up.
>> > >
>> > > I like to remind everybody there is a Prepconf
>> > > planned on: May 3-18, 07 in Winneba,  Ghana to support the "Winneba
>> > > Linux User Group" in their effort to build the Wireless Local Mesh
>> > > (see: http://www.wilugghana.org/ ) .
>> > > This prepconf has been postponed before because of lack of funding.
>> > > Are we going to raise the funds this time, in time?
>> > >
>> > > We need funds from independent sources that focus on real concrete
>> > > technical solutions in Africa and other under served communities in
>> > > the world.
>> > >
>> > > Lets brainstorm here on this list on ideas where to find this
>> > > independent funder and lets continue the brainstorm in Berlin at the
>> > > WirelessCommunityWeekend aka wcw2007 (see:
>> > > https://snr.freifunk.net/trac/wcw) starting this Thu
>> > 26|04|2007 till
>> > > Sun 29|04|2007at c-base.
>> > >
>> > > That reminds me that I don't even have funding to travel to Berlin
>> nor
>> > > that I know where to sleep but I guess I will find a solution for
>> > > these small problems soon :-)
>> > >
>> > > See You Soon at C-Base
>> > >
>> > > Thanks Freddy
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 4/24/07, marco <marco.pompe at web.de> wrote:
>> > > > hi all
>> > > >
>> > > > first a short reminder: the wiki for our WSFII 2007 (opendiv.org)
>> is in
>> > > > progress. pls. get involved.
>> > > >
>> > > > second: u are asked to consider ur presence on the meeting in
>> > > > Winneba/Ghana in August. especially as we are supposed to work on
>> the
>> > > > workshop program we ll need to confirm wether we can go and in
>> which way
>> > > > we ll involve in the workshop program. jeff already has proposed
>> some
>> > > > WSs ...
>> > > >
>> > > > grts, marco, berlin
>> > > >
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