[wsfii-discuss] Workshops at WSFII Africa 2007

Wed Apr 25 23:35:58 UTC 2007

Great comments Marco.

I feel the email you just sent out demonstrates your vital role as
"ombudsman"/mediator in clarifying this "confusion" that I discussed in
the email that Fred responded to today. 

Possibly this could facilitating the organization of the wiki
wsfii.africa.2007 wiki as well coordinating the organization of the
summit itself. I totally agree with you; is not so much about the
labeling or branding, but the process and how that process strengthens
our human networks as well as the wireless ones.

Possibly we could say something like this on the front page: 

The backdrop of the summit will be an effort to organize the first Open
Digital Village in Winneba Ghana. Participants in the Wireless Roadshow
and the Summit will have opportunities not only to consider various
similar assets based community development approaches, and share best
practices with each other (discussing various compelling concepts as
well actual projects that have achieved practical actions) but also
participate in getting the ODiV in Winneba fully operational building on
the previous milestones. This will be a "working summit".

Any Feedback appreciated.

Fred's to address your comments: this is an incomplete list of our
accomplishments over the last several years:
http://www.onevillagefoundation.org/ovf/accomplishments.html

I see them as little steps towards a grander vision and this is what the
Winneba Open Digital Village (WODiV) has the potential to be.

Fred, While I think your comments were a bit unfair and harsh, I must
admit that I would have liked to have seen us proceed to a greater
degree in getting the Winneba Open Digital Village operational than we
have. 

The expected funding has been delayed and this has affected our ability
to get PrepConf going as we had anticipated. Kafui and I will be working
hard in the coming months to raise the needed funding to move forward on
our targets/milestones. 

Any help from any of you would be appreciated. This includes leads,
ideas for possible funding, volunteering, and of course any amount of
money you can put into the process. We are working hard to move the
project forward with the limited funding that we now have. 

I am expecting that we will receive a small grant and that the first
payment from that grant will come in May so that should help us to move
forward on this project.

Kloschi said he was going to transfer the ODiV content to the
www.wsfiiafrica2007.org site so that should help to address any
confusion about opendiv.org. I think www.wsfiiafrica2007.org is a more
appropriate naming of the website for the conference and is addressing
the point that Marco made below.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:wsfii-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of marco
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:30 PM
To: Discuss list on the World Summit on Free Information Infrastructure
Subject: Re: [wsfii-discuss] Workshops at WSFII Africa 2007

hello jeff, fred and all ...

please make sure that nobody of you will try to put HIS stamp onto
anybody else ...

@ jeff: would u please explain a little further what u had in mind. i
mean, which kind of roleplay u see for OVF within the WSFII? and maybe
even critically reflect it yourself ...?

@ fred: would u please explain, in how far u believe that there could be
ONE modell of organisation, social and technological solution, to export
and adopt to everywhere in the world? maybe u allready guess some might
disagree with this attitude?

in general i wouldnt see so much importance in the labelling. i think a
useful label will adopt to the local circumstances and is best chosen by
the local activists. freifunk is a good choice for german speakers,
opendiv might be good for the geeks of the western world ... yeah, and
so on. so what?

grts, marco, berlin

Fred Pook wrote:
> Hi Jeff
>
> I would like to see that booklet, where do i find it?
> Also i want to make it clear that opendiv has not much to do with One
> Village Foundation...
> I am not sure what One Village Foundation is and what it actually does
> in the real world. Jeff, please stop confusing our goal with more
> words. Produce, Create, Do It in the real world. Up to now One Village
> Foundation, in EM radio terms, has just been noise..
>
> Correct me and produce real material, real funding
> or get out of this movement because our goal is real Independence
>
> OVF is on the edge...
>
> Thanks Freddy
>
>
>
> On 4/25/07, jeff buderer <jeff at onevillagefoundation.org> wrote:
>> Fred,
>>
>> We need to get this idea of OpenDIV sorted out.
>>
>> I feel it may be confusing people with regards to all these different
>> names Resources Centers, OpenDIV and Open Digital Village.
>>
>> I feel the name is not important really the convergence of people
>> around empowering networks is.
>>
>> However OVF has recently invested a lot in the naming Open Digital
>> Village and a booklet has actually been published on it that we plan
to
>> post online soon.
>>
>> So I'd like us to get clear on how this what we have done relates to
>> Open Div.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> This process of linking and sharing resources is what opendiv.org is
>> for. the website of OpenDiv will contain best practices and announce
>> and collect data from worldwide "Free Information Infrastructures".
>>
>> The actual networks are, if we agree on it or if each community
agrees
>> on it, called OpenDiv.net like the one in Winneba would be called
>> winneba.opendiv.net . the structure of these networks will be based
on
>> the experiences at FreiFunk.net since they have the most worked out
>> experience in this field. In fact the thinking for opendiv.org is
just
>> freifunk.net but because nobody can pronounce or understand the word
>> freifunk, a new word was made up and that is opendiv.
>>
>> Gathering and Meetings, Workshop etc. are done by WSFII (World
Summits
>> on Free Information Infrastructures) as usual.
>>
>> Sorry , if earlier I did not explain the roles of the 4 structures,
>>
>> Thanks Freddy
>>
>> On 4/25/07, Thomas M. <tmaketa at allequal.org> wrote:
>> > I'm more and more thinking of linking all wireless network of
Africa
>> into an
>> > association where we could plan and share resources, Association
with
>> more
>> > experience like Wireless Ghana could share experience with
association
>> busy
>> > being created like those of Congo and others...
>> >
>> > The funding is a real problem we are facing the same thing and in
fact
>> we
>> > noticed that we have become ourselves the funder!!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4/25/07, Fred Pook <fredpook at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Thanks for the good work, Marco,Daniel and Kloschi!
>> > >
>> > > Opendiv.org aka http://opendigitalvillage.org is shaping up.
>> > >
>> > > I like to remind everybody there is a Prepconf
>> > > planned on: May 3-18, 07 in Winneba,  Ghana to support the
"Winneba
>> > > Linux User Group" in their effort to build the Wireless Local
Mesh
>> > > (see: http://www.wilugghana.org/ ) .
>> > > This prepconf has been postponed before because of lack of
funding.
>> > > Are we going to raise the funds this time, in time?
>> > >
>> > > We need funds from independent sources that focus on real
concrete
>> > > technical solutions in Africa and other under served communities
in
>> > > the world.
>> > >
>> > > Lets brainstorm here on this list on ideas where to find this
>> > > independent funder and lets continue the brainstorm in Berlin at
the
>> > > WirelessCommunityWeekend aka wcw2007 (see:
>> > > https://snr.freifunk.net/trac/wcw) starting this Thu
>> > 26|04|2007 till
>> > > Sun 29|04|2007at c-base.
>> > >
>> > > That reminds me that I don't even have funding to travel to
Berlin
>> nor
>> > > that I know where to sleep but I guess I will find a solution for
>> > > these small problems soon :-)
>> > >
>> > > See You Soon at C-Base
>> > >
>> > > Thanks Freddy
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 4/24/07, marco <marco.pompe at web.de> wrote:
>> > > > hi all
>> > > >
>> > > > first a short reminder: the wiki for our WSFII 2007
(opendiv.org)
>> is in
>> > > > progress. pls. get involved.
>> > > >
>> > > > second: u are asked to consider ur presence on the meeting in
>> > > > Winneba/Ghana in August. especially as we are supposed to work
on
>> the
>> > > > workshop program we ll need to confirm wether we can go and in
>> which way
>> > > > we ll involve in the workshop program. jeff already has
proposed
>> some
>> > > > WSs ...
>> > > >
>> > > > grts, marco, berlin
>> > > >
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