[wsfii-discuss] Economic Sustainability of Community Wireless

Thu Apr 26 18:22:31 UTC 2007

Aaron,

Yes you are correct when you think about it at the most basic level yes
costs are low.

However I guess some of us were coming from the idea of creating
multipurpose community/telecenters to complement the wireless networks.

This includes considering ways to promote local as well as global
sources of income to sustain those facilities.

The idea is that we are not just talking about wireless but a whole
suite ecosystem of ICT community development services to promote
sustainability - cultural ecological as well as economic. 

And so that process of unleashing human potential using ICT as augmenter
of that process in a nutshell is what oneVillage Initiative
http://www.onevillagefoundation.org/ovf/method.html aspires to achieve.

Jeff

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Wireless

Hi people,

sorry, all this talk about living without money is a bit... well.. retro

Anyay, without having read all of the mails of this long thread  
before, I want to simply
point you to our sustanability answer for the Vienna funkfeuer.at  
network:

http://housing.funkfeuer.at

It works very well, people put their servers into our housing / co- 
location cellar , they have a benefit from it (good inet connection)  
and the wireless community network (funkfeuer) gets bandwidth.
It is neither a corporation / nor a company but simply a way to make  
our freenet sustainable for years to come.

voila!

best regards,
aaron.

On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:22 PM, marco wrote:

> hi thomas
>
>
> Thomas M. wrote:
>>
>> reading all these texts on business model, economic sustainability,
>> ... I started thinking about what is the economical model, in my way
>> of understanding it is model of society based primarily on money, And
>> I thought isnit a way to have an alternative kind of society based on
>> others values than money?
> I do agree so far but want to add that the living without money,
> virtual, paper or coins, is an ideal, a good one certainly. our  
> society
> is so deeply structured by markets (and markets base and  
> commodities as
> money is this special commodity for exchange) that we cannot just
> switch, even if all people would have this idea spontaniously. u have
> been implicating it - i just wanted to expilcate ...
>
> the frontline is set by economical power today. to work out something
> means to get independend from profitmaximisation and shareholders.
> people, currently bare of resources and means of production, have  
> to get
> economical power in a structured way, having short/longterm strategies
> to work at. the democratisation of economy is the core of what i  
> believe
> have to be done. and this means a fight against previleges,  
> exploitation
> and oppression at all levels of society ... good intentions are not
> sufficient. we need networking, strategies and structuring on that  
> behalf!
> have anybody seen the documentary "The Corporation"?
>
> http://www.thecorporation.com/
>
> grts, marco, berlin
>
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