[wsfii-discuss] ... take the lead - Date selection

[Ian Howard]

Vickram, Gregers,

Yes, I see your point, that thought had occurred to me too, but lets say 
that we use the meetomatic results as a survey to see where there is a 
the most interest for a date, then there will need to be a decision 
made, based on that info and other variables. To a degree I trust that 
most people will self-select themselves (not respond if they are not 
intending to go). I am certainly willing to use another tool, but how 
about we use this one for the date survey?


Tomas,

Yes, you are quite right, our local people are not, so far, very 
involved. This is somewhat typical for many on-line projects, I'm 
afraid. Perhaps because local people may not have a computer of their 
own, at their home, or where they work and thus they do not participate 
in such forums as actively and are not immersed in an online culture. 
This particular issue is one that the open source community has to 
address in Africa in general, how do we engage local participants, how 
can they participate in these forums? Does the medium have to change? 
Sometimes I also find that the way we in low context societies dialogue 
on these lists might be awkward from people of higher context societies. 
Perhaps we just need to continue to encourage and invite the local 
participants to be involved. Any other ideas?

Ian



marco wrote:
> hi
>
> i agree with both of you. how this is possible? i think because, you are
> discussing a problem which has not yet evolved. i think we just should
> give this tool a chance, as we should give it to the ghanaian
> administrive group, as seen in the minutes. its surely a process and the
> discussions we do are I in no way useless, but of great value, as this
> is the kind of direct exchange the world has missed for the last 100.000
> years ;)
>
> grts, marco, berlin
>
> Vickram Crishna schrieb:
>   
>> --- Gregers Petersen <ic at momu.dk> wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> Vickram Crishna wrote:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> To be fair I think only those who can actually go
>>>> (with reasonable surety) to the meeting, or will
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> be
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> helping out with logistics and therefore are
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> impacted
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> by the date, should vote. In other words, only
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> direct
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> stakeholders should vote.
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> I believe the position from which Ian argues is that
>>> everyone is a 
>>> direct stakeholder - everyone who (at what ever
>>> level) participates in 
>>> WSFII activities is a stakeholder.
>>>     
>>>       
>> I think this is applicable and very much a WSFII value
>> for other situations, but here we are discussing
>> specific WSFII events - how will I add value (and not
>> in fact detract from a fair assessment) by voting for
>> some date for an event that I have no intention or
>> ability to attend or otherwise directly contribute. 
>>
>> Take the Ghana meeting - if it should turn out that I
>> am not going to attend anyway, how will my vote be
>> useful (I could mischievously vote the meet should be
>> in September or December, and thus skew the results,
>> and impact other WSFII meets or even meets of other
>> wireless mesh groups - all uselessly)?
>>   
>>     
>>>> I don't know if this meeting scheduler can remove
>>>> irrelevant votes. 
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Non of the votes are irrelevant!
>>>     
>>>       
>> Just as someone asked who will take charge of
>> administrative tasks for a web site, to prevent
>> spamming, vandalising or disreputable activities, so
>> must there be some purpose in voting. Thus the
>> electoral college for a meet ought to be made up of
>> people who want to attend or help directly. 
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> Are there any other choices
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> available for such processes online?
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> It will be up to the indiviudals who are active on
>>> the coord-list (which 
>>> is open to everybody) to look at the options,
>>> discuss them on the 'list' 
>>> and come-up with a decision - and then get on with
>>> it.
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>> Perfectly right. But they should also be able to
>> review who has voted, in order to reverse the effect
>> of such spamming.
>>
>> Vickram
>>
>>
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