[wsfii-discuss] ... take the lead - Feedback from people on Ghana

Fri Jun 15 17:19:01 UTC 2007

Well, hopefully they will see the value inherent in a
self-organising process, that everyone has a voice, an
equal voice.

And then I hope they will not remain "they" for any
great time longer.

--- Thomas Maketa <tmaketa at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm seeing a lot of people contributing to the
> discusion but so far the
> minutes of the ganaheein comittee is the first
> contribution I see from  the
> ghanaien people on the ground.
> 
> I would really want to know what they think of the
> discusion of this mailing
> list, are they understanding that, it's how I
> perceive it, "WE" want to
> somehow use this event and turning it to a  self
> organized event, perhaps
> far from what they are planning and that they risk
> to lose control of it ?
> 
> 
> On 6/15/07, marco <marco.pompe at web.de> wrote:
> >
> > hi
> >
> > i agree with both of you. how this is possible? i
> think because, you are
> > discussing a problem which has not yet evolved. i
> think we just should
> > give this tool a chance, as we should give it to
> the ghanaian
> > administrive group, as seen in the minutes. its
> surely a process and the
> > discussions we do are I in no way useless, but of
> great value, as this
> > is the kind of direct exchange the world has
> missed for the last 100.000
> > years ;)
> >
> > grts, marco, berlin
> >
> > Vickram Crishna schrieb:
> > > --- Gregers Petersen <ic at momu.dk> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Vickram Crishna wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> To be fair I think only those who can actually
> go
> > >>> (with reasonable surety) to the meeting, or
> will
> > >>>
> > >> be
> > >>
> > >>> helping out with logistics and therefore are
> > >>>
> > >> impacted
> > >>
> > >>> by the date, should vote. In other words, only
> > >>>
> > >> direct
> > >>
> > >>> stakeholders should vote.
> > >>>
> > >> I believe the position from which Ian argues is
> that
> > >> everyone is a
> > >> direct stakeholder - everyone who (at what ever
> > >> level) participates in
> > >> WSFII activities is a stakeholder.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I think this is applicable and very much a WSFII
> value
> > > for other situations, but here we are discussing
> > > specific WSFII events - how will I add value
> (and not
> > > in fact detract from a fair assessment) by
> voting for
> > > some date for an event that I have no intention
> or
> > > ability to attend or otherwise directly
> contribute.
> > >
> > > Take the Ghana meeting - if it should turn out
> that I
> > > am not going to attend anyway, how will my vote
> be
> > > useful (I could mischievously vote the meet
> should be
> > > in September or December, and thus skew the
> results,
> > > and impact other WSFII meets or even meets of
> other
> > > wireless mesh groups - all uselessly)?
> > >
> > >>> I don't know if this meeting scheduler can
> remove
> > >>> irrelevant votes.
> > >>>
> > >> Non of the votes are irrelevant!
> > >>
> > >
> > > Just as someone asked who will take charge of
> > > administrative tasks for a web site, to prevent
> > > spamming, vandalising or disreputable
> activities, so
> > > must there be some purpose in voting. Thus the
> > > electoral college for a meet ought to be made up
> of
> > > people who want to attend or help directly.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Are there any other choices
> > >>
> > >>> available for such processes online?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> It will be up to the indiviudals who are active
> on
> > >> the coord-list (which
> > >> is open to everybody) to look at the options,
> > >> discuss them on the 'list'
> > >> and come-up with a decision - and then get on
> with
> > >> it.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Perfectly right. But they should also be able to
> > > review who has voted, in order to reverse the
> effect
> > > of such spamming.
> > >
> > > Vickram
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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