[wsfii-discuss] wsfii-discuss Digest, Vol 49, Issue 1

Richard MacKinnon rich at lessnetworks.com
Tue Mar 17 15:07:06 UTC 2009



We've been running an experimental 6-node freifunk mesh sharing 3 
residential broadband connections with 3 Less Networks/WiFiDog public 
access points and 2 WEP-encrypted private access points.  Not a big 
network, but far more reliable than I was expecting.  The mesh is always 
there.  The benefit is that 4 homes get broadband instead of 3 and the 
public gets free WiFi provided they accept the terms of use limiting the 
liability of the broadband sharer's (if I let you camp in my yard, don't 
litter, sabotage, or vandalize my property and don't become a public 
nuisance that gets me in trouble).

One thing that I noticed is that a bug in the firmware for the Buffalo 
WHR-G54 doesn't actually recognize that it's connected to the 
Internet...ie, it meshes with other nodes, but it won't route packets to 
the Internet connection it's connected to!  Strange.  So I use the 
Buffalos in places where there is no Internet connection.  Instead I use 
the Linksys WRT 54GL in nodes where there's an Internet connection.

--r


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> From: Juergen Neumann<j.neumann at ergomedia.de>
> Subject: [wsfii-discuss] Preflashed FOSS mesh router history ...
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> Hi all, hi Ramon, hi people and friends at guifi.net,
>
> I just want to point you to https://www.open-mesh.com/store/products.php?product=Professional-Mini-Router. 
>
> This is mainly what happenend after we had met at the wonderful WSFII at guifi.net [1] in Spain at SAX2007:
>
> We got to know Mike Burmeister-Brown (US) in Paris in Dec. 2007 at the initial OHI [2] meeting (thx Marek!). He and his team took a lot of inspiration from our specs [3] and have managed to build and sell FOSS preflashed routers with openWRT zero conf batman meshing, etc. 
>
> The new gerenration is already quite close to what we wanted! Thanks again for all your input!
>
> Salut, Amor i Xarxa! 
>
> We are always moving on ...
>
> Kindly,
>
> JuergeN
>
> [1] http://guifi.net/ca/SAX2007En
> [2] http://www.open-hw.org/index.php/Category:OpenHardwareInitiative
> [3] http://wiki.freifunk.net/OpenHardware
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> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:21:50 +0530
> From: "Ramnarayan.K" <ramnarayan.k at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [wsfii-discuss] Preflashed FOSS mesh router history ...
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> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Juergen Neumann <j.neumann at ergomedia.de>wrote:
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>   
>> I just want to point you to
>> https://www.open-mesh.com/store/products.php?product=Professional-Mini-Router
>> .
>>
>>
>> We got to know Mike Burmeister-Brown (US) in Paris in Dec. 2007 at the
>> initial OHI [2] meeting (thx Marek!). He and his team took a lot of
>> inspiration from our specs [3] and have managed to build and sell FOSS
>> preflashed routers with openWRT zero conf batman meshing, etc.
>>
>>
>>     
> Wow good show,
> Congrats to all those who made this happen
> ram
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> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:20:26 +0000
> From: james stevens <james at spc.org>
> Subject: Re: [wsfii-discuss] Preflashed FOSS mesh router history ...
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> Dear all,
>
> We have been using the open-mesh routers since may 2008 and have a nice 
> 40 node mesh going in London SE8.. thats Deptford for those familiar 
> with London. Its taken a lot of energy and patience to hold the network 
> together so far and we are very keen to find a stable solution to work 
> with throughout 2009.
>
> I heard from Mike the other day confirming delivery of 20 of the newest 
> router so we can test and report back on our experiences in the wild.
>
> If you are interested to see more and hear of our progress try 
> http://own.spc.org.
>
> Does anyone else here use Open-Mesh.. how are you getting on..?
>
> easy
>
> James
>
>
>   Juergen Neumann wrote:
>   
>> Hi all, hi Ramon, hi people and friends at guifi.net,
>>
>> I just want to point you to https://www.open-mesh.com/store/products.php?product=Professional-Mini-Router. 
>>
>> This is mainly what happenend after we had met at the wonderful WSFII at guifi.net [1] in Spain at SAX2007:
>>
>> We got to know Mike Burmeister-Brown (US) in Paris in Dec. 2007 at the initial OHI [2] meeting (thx Marek!). He and his team took a lot of inspiration from our specs [3] and have managed to build and sell FOSS preflashed routers with openWRT zero conf batman meshing, etc. 
>>
>> The new gerenration is already quite close to what we wanted! Thanks again for all your input!
>>
>> Salut, Amor i Xarxa! 
>>
>> We are always moving on ...
>>
>> Kindly,
>>
>> JuergeN
>>
>> [1] http://guifi.net/ca/SAX2007En
>> [2] http://www.open-hw.org/index.php/Category:OpenHardwareInitiative
>> [3] http://wiki.freifunk.net/OpenHardware
>>
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> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:35:37 -0500
> From: Richard Lussier ISF <richard.lussier at ilesansfil.org>
> Subject: Re: [wsfii-discuss] Preflashed FOSS mesh router history ...
> To: james at spc.org, Discuss list on the World Summit on Free
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> I have been testing ROBIN nodes for almost a year now on 2 networks, and 
> very happy about it.
> We have to mention the great work of Antonio Anselmi, and the other 
> fellows on the ROBIN forum for making that happen
> http://robin.forumup.it/
> Richard Lussier
> Montreal
>
> james stevens wrote:
>   
>> Dear all,
>>
>> We have been using the open-mesh routers since may 2008 and have a nice 
>> 40 node mesh going in London SE8.. thats Deptford for those familiar 
>> with London. Its taken a lot of energy and patience to hold the network 
>> together so far and we are very keen to find a stable solution to work 
>> with throughout 2009.
>>
>> I heard from Mike the other day confirming delivery of 20 of the newest 
>> router so we can test and report back on our experiences in the wild.
>>
>> If you are interested to see more and hear of our progress try 
>> http://own.spc.org.
>>
>> Does anyone else here use Open-Mesh.. how are you getting on..?
>>
>> easy
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>   Juergen Neumann wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Hi all, hi Ramon, hi people and friends at guifi.net,
>>>
>>> I just want to point you to https://www.open-mesh.com/store/products.php?product=Professional-Mini-Router. 
>>>
>>> This is mainly what happenend after we had met at the wonderful WSFII at guifi.net [1] in Spain at SAX2007:
>>>
>>> We got to know Mike Burmeister-Brown (US) in Paris in Dec. 2007 at the initial OHI [2] meeting (thx Marek!). He and his team took a lot of inspiration from our specs [3] and have managed to build and sell FOSS preflashed routers with openWRT zero conf batman meshing, etc. 
>>>
>>> The new gerenration is already quite close to what we wanted! Thanks again for all your input!
>>>
>>> Salut, Amor i Xarxa! 
>>>
>>> We are always moving on ...
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>>
>>> JuergeN
>>>
>>> [1] http://guifi.net/ca/SAX2007En
>>> [2] http://www.open-hw.org/index.php/Category:OpenHardwareInitiative
>>> [3] http://wiki.freifunk.net/OpenHardware
>>>
>>>
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