[Yourtopia] "Learn more" text and general concept conflict

Giacomo Luchetta giacomoluchetta at gmail.com
Thu Apr 12 15:50:15 BST 2012


Southern quality of life is made of "less-standard" phenomena, such as
climate, more leisure time, less stress, stronger family connections,
good food. I am listing several indicators, just as a brainstorming, I
am not arguing that all of them make sense:
1. average temperature
2. days of sun
3. traffic
4. quality of air / air pollution
5. number of people living alone / number of divorces
6. number of people suffering from obesity / heart attacks

In these indicators southern regions may have an advantage.. but
actually I do not know whether these features may and should enter the
composite indicator. And Trento and Bolzano would come out first in
any measure of human development in Italy, regardless of the
indicator, the weights, etc...

giacomo

2012/4/12 Rosamaria Bitetti <rosamaria.bitetti at gmail.com>:
> Velichka, I like your solution!
>
> (cultural note: yours is what in Italy we would call a democristian solution
> (for almost half a century we were ruled by a centrist party who was always
> looking for compromise).
>
> I'll check on the stats to see if we can manipulate some resuls, but I'm
> afraid Trento and Bolzano (not being Italy) will always be outliers...
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 16:27, Velichka Dimitrova
> <velichka.dimitrova at okfn.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Marian,
>>
>> Back to the first question: the composite index that Dirk wrote about
>> means just the weighed index, which appears in both versions that we had so
>> far - with just 7 categories + GDP and with all 21 + GDP indicators.
>>
>> The actual problem I see if that many of the indicators are correlated, so
>> one always comes up with the roughly the same result - Trento or Bolzano
>> first. Alternatively we could include some data series for which Southern
>> regions as we discussed yesterday - possible something related to culture?
>>
>> @Rosamaria, do you see any stats on http://noi-italia.istat.it/ where
>> Southern states or any other states would be coming first?
>>
>> As about the two versions - the bubbles and the detailed slider version, I
>> think we should stick with the latest version which Marian suggested - would
>> it be possible though that one would also be able to modify the relative
>> weight of the indicators within one category upon clicking for more details
>> - Let's say I put use the bubble sliders to determine the relative weight of
>> e.g. Health with respect to all other categories (what has been already
>> done) and then when I click on more I am also given three sliders to
>> determine the relative importance of health satisfaction, chronic diseases
>> etc within the health category. This will be an extra option which maybe not
>> all users will make use of - yet it is good to have in case there are users
>> interested in more detail.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Velichka
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Rosamaria Bitetti
>> <rosamaria.bitetti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...but it also makes it more interesting (tested on non geek sister).
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 15:01, Marian Steinbach <marian at sendung.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 12. April 2012 14:37 schrieb Rosamaria Bitetti
>>>> <rosamaria.bitetti at gmail.com>:
>>>> > so basically the final result will be this one?
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.sendung.de/cust/okfn/yourtopia/wf-20120403-1200/?Page=Home_-_Category_details
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that was the state of the discussion before today.
>>>>
>>>> > Can we add the possibility of adjusting sub indicators in this version
>>>> > or is
>>>> > it too complex?
>>>>
>>>> If we would add the option to adjust sub-indicators, we would end up
>>>> more or less at the version we discarded.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I think that this this introduces a complexity which narrows down
>>>> the target audience quite significantly.
>>>>
>>>> Marian
>>>>
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