[ckan-dev] Debian packaging of ckanclient and datapkg

Tue Jul 5 13:35:33 UTC 2011

2011/6/28 J. Félix Ontañón <fontanon at emergya.es>:
> El día 23 de junio de 2011 18:00, Rufus Pollock
> <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> escribió:
>> Apologies for the delay -- travelling has made net access intermittent.
>
> No need for apologizes, actually I've been out too.
>
>> 2011/6/20 J. Félix Ontañón <fontanon at emergya.es>:
>>> 2011/6/19 Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>:
>>>> 2011/6/19 J. Félix Ontañón <fontanon at emergya.es>:
>> [...]

>> Basically: yes -- but I can imagine DataDeck doing more. I've started
>> a wiki page for us to gather thoughts:
>>
>> <http://wiki.ckan.net/DataDeck>
>>
>> Please dive in ...
>
> Great! I've just registered on wiki.ckan.net and updated the mockups
> broken link by uploading the files to the wiki.
> Would this wiki page be the best point to brainstorm about DataDeck?
> Is it better to discuss here at the mailing list?

I think the wiki could be best for longer discussions with posts to
list here summarizing and pointing to wiki.

>> Right, that makes a lot of sense. I guess I was just thinking a webapp
>> that runs locally makes a lot of sense (why distinguish between
>> desktop and web ...) -- plus I know zero desktop app programming :-)
>
> If fact we're living now a curious moment with open-desktops like
> Gnome3: it allows GUI programming with the traditionally-asociated
> web-progamming language javascript, making easier to integrate web and
> desktop, and yet more!
>
> Another example is the massive use of webkit web-browser-engine for
> developing open-desktop apps. FLOSS-apps like Gwibber and Ubuntu's
> software-center relies on webkit for rendering the main part of the
> GUI, written in html+js. I think this two could be a good references
> to integrate ckanjs into a fulld-desktop app:
> * Using webkit for rendering ckanjs onto a browser
> * Wrapping the webkit browser widget with desktop-gui widgets which
> could manage with the access to filesystem.

This sounds really good (and something i did not know about).

> Do you like the idea? I think it could be a strightforward way. It
> sounds better, for me, than providing some python-server on the
> background to handle with the filesystem access.

Yes, sure.
[...]
>>>>> In order to make easier for testers, I'm building the releases
>>>>> ckanclient-0.7 and datapkg-0.8 for Ubuntu 10.10 and Ubuntu 11.04 under
>>>>> a Launchpad PPA repository (It will take yet some time for the Ubuntu
>>>>> binary packages to be available):
>>>>>
>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~fontanon/+archive/ckanutils/+packages
>>>>
>>>> We'll try these out.
>
> Did you have the chance for testing them?

I haven't yet due to OKCon, but I'm going to try now.

[...]
>>> I think a first step might be promoting into Debian/Ubuntu
>>> python-ckanclient and datapkg (both easy to package and probably easy
>>> to be accepted). Do you agree?
>>
>> Yes and if at all possible CKAN core (but as you say may be easier to
>> start with simpler items).
>
> IMHO I believe fist step should be python-ckanclient and datapkg, but
> just because:
> 1.- I'm pretty sure the packages are very debian-policy friendly .
> 2.- I want to start "pinging" some debian developers to see how they
> reacts with my uploading requests.
>
> If everything went fine next step would be CKAN core. Do you think i'm
> on the right way?

Yes.

Rufus