[okfn-coord] Possible work on IATI registry using CKAN

Jonathan Gray jonathan.gray at okfn.org
Thu Nov 19 23:01:01 UTC 2009

Just a quick note to keep Coord informed - it looks like there is
interest in using CKAN for a registry of international development
data. Rufus will have call next week and we'll keep you informed. Very


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Aaron Gladders <agladders at 2paths.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: barcamp meeting
To: Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
Cc: Karen Goh <kgoh at 2paths.com>

Hi again - I should note I've read up on loading the CKAN information
into the Talis Platform, which is great.  What I'm talking about below
is actually putting the SPARQL endpoint on CKAN, and adding an
ontology definition for IATI.  Countries would register their SPARQL
endpoints on the IATI CKAN, and it would federate requests to the
country endpoints.  Third parties would create portals (e.g. a Ugandan
country view, a German one, a malaria one, etc.)

Looking forward to your thoughts,


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Aaron Gladders <agladders at 2paths.com> wrote:
> Hi Jonathan
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Karen Goh <kgoh at 2paths.com> wrote:
>>> Based on the data work we've done with the WHO, OECD and the Gates
>>> Foundation, under the IATI initiative we are in early stage non-committal
>>> discussions with a number of other organizations and countries (e.g.
>>> Hewlett, DFID and a few of the other signatories who are quite keen) to
>>> pilot the use of their data applying semantic web technologies to it as
>>> functional prototypes.  We've already built/investigated a prototype and
>>> this is the next step, piloting out implementations.  I would be interested
>>> to see if there is some overlap with what we do and what OKFN plans on
>>> doing, or even if there are opportunities to work supportively together.
>> Would love to hear more about this work. Do you have any documents or
>> alpha prototypes I might be able to look at?
> We do although I think it would be better if I talked you through a
> few of the slides from a presentation I recently did as our prototype
> hides much of the complexity behind a simple interface (always our
> goal).  Let me know if you want to do a quick screen sharing session,
> I've put some times further down this email.
>>> We are on the data.gov.uk mailing list and understand some of the OKFN's
>>> role there, but it would be great to hear it from you so we have the whole
>>> picture as well as what you are doing in Germany.  We are meant to get in
>>> touch with someone there that Aaron had meant while in the Hague in regards
>>> to their data.
>> We built some of the software that data.gov.uk runs on. We know most
>> of the core government people behind this effort. We've been something
>> of a dark centre of gravity for the movement towards opening up
>> government data in the UK - in terms of policy and in terms of
>> interesting reuse cases. We've been involved in the W3C Linking Open
>> Data group and other semantic web initiatives from early on. Generally
>> the OKF has a large and diverse crowd interested in legal and
>> technical aspects of making data open.
>> We're currently starting work on a registry for open data in Germany.
>> Hope that helps, and let me know if you'd like any more detail...
> In terms of the contribution from OKF is that mainly CKAN, and is that
> what you're doing with the Germans?
> What I had envisioned for the IATI registry is a basic interface for
> people to browse through, a restful API, and a SPARQL endpoint.  It
> looks like CKAN provides the first two.
> The registry is something we were looking to prototype out for the
> Barcamp, including drafting up an IATI phase 1 ontology, which we have
> done.  I'd be quite interested to discuss expanding CKAN with a SPARQL
> endpoint, perhaps under the banner of the data.gov.uk or German
> efforts.
> The other side to this is I would like to package together a base
> infrastructure that could be used by groups who want to share their
> data, utilizing open source software but providing the possibility to
> use commercial offerings where needed, by using open standards.  This
> is quite similar to what we did for the WHO, creating a functional
> prototype for a global disease incidence data aggregation platform,
> although the technologies used then were a bit different.  We've had
> interest from the OECD and IMF on doing a proof of concept on their
> infrastructure.  I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this.
> Shall we setup a call?  Next week seems to be my "talk to Europe" week
> as I have early calls every day.  Let me know if any of the following
> work:
> Mon 8 am Vancouver/4 pm London
> Tue 9 am Vancouver/5 pm London
> Wed 9 am Vancouver/5 pm London
> Thu 9 am Vancouver/5 pm London
> Fri 8 am Vancouver/4pm London or
> Fri 9 am Vancouver/5 pm London
> Aaron
>> Jonathan
>>> On 18-Nov-09, at 8:39 AM, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Karen Goh <kgoh at 2paths.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jonathan, I completely understand about being too busy. Separate to
>>>>> barcamp, could I touch base with you on the phone about some of these
>>>>> other
>>>>> points you bring up in your last email. Are you free for a call?
>>>> Email is actually faster and easier for me at the moment as I'm going
>>>> to be moving around a lot over the coming days. Are there specific
>>>> questions I can answer by email?
>>>> Alternately you can ping me on our IRC channel (my nickname is
>>>> 'jwyg'). Details are at:
>>>>  http://okfn.org/contact
>>>> You can connect directly via a web browser at:
>>>>  http://ur1.ca/4fh
>>>> --
>>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>> http://www.okfn.org
>> --
>> Jonathan Gray
>> Community Coordinator
>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>> http://www.okfn.org
> --
> Aaron Gladders, 2Paths
> http://www.2paths.com/

Aaron Gladders, 2Paths

Jonathan Gray

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