[okfn-coord] Where does my money go spec for 4IP

[paula le dieu]

I think if everyone is happy and confident that we can make a real go of it
with MS then we should definitely go ahead and do that! :) And it sounds as
if you are comfortable that this is the case. My sense is that our proposal
will be stronger if we partner up but there are some downsides (always an
admin cost working with other orgs, risk we get lost in the
credit/reputation building side etc). We just need to be aware and plan
accordingly.
If you are comfortable doing this then either you or I if you prefer can
drop Dan Heaf a note and let him know we are going to re-submit a joint
proposal.

p

2009/9/17 Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>

> 2009/9/17 paula le dieu <paula at ledieu.org>:
> > Hi Rufus,
> >
> > 4IP are not giving anything away at this point except that they are
> > concerned about our capacity to executive but are not prepared to say
> that
> > this would exclude us from consideration. Similarly they are not prepared
> to
> > commit to any particular view about mysociety other than while they know
> > they mysociety can executive they are all too aware that their
> development
> > team is already flat out on other projects (one of which is 4ip project
> > which is why they know so much about their capacity).
>
> Quite understand Paula and thanks for clarifying even more :) I will
> get on to the detailed doc either tomorrow or over the w/e.
>
> However, to reiterate my main concern: MySociety have formally asked
> us to withdraw and enter a collaborative proposal with them. If we
> continue with our sole proposal and *then* decide to do a joint one
> with mysociety won't that seem very odd? (Especially since we now know
> MS want to work with us) .
>
> If so we need to think hard *now* about which way we plan to go (and
> perhaps we need to go to 4IP and tell them that MS have got in contact
> with us about this idea).
>
> Regards,
>
> Rufus
>
> PS: I should also say that my inclination (having spoken further with
> Tom -- see previous emails) would be to collaborate with MySociety if
> we could -- though I very much want the counsel of wiser, and more
> experienced, minds here!
>
> > They won't give us a tip of the hat until they have all the information
> to
> > do a formal assessment - well at least as formal as it gets with 4IP -
> imo
> > anyway.
> > p
> >
> >
> > 2009/9/16 Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
> >>
> >> 2009/9/12 paula le dieu <paula at ledieu.org>:
> >> > earlier is probably better than later as he will want to assess the
> >> > projects
> >> > asap. I think if we can get it back to him by the end of the week it
> >> > will be
> >> > ok.
> >>
> >> That's quite soon! (says rufus who only flies back into the UK
> >> tomorrow at lunchtime). A response on that document needs proper
> >> consideration ... (one things that difficult about this project - and
> >> something Tom Steinberg also quite rightly emphasized when we spoke --
> >> is that the actual source data is an unknown quantity and it is hard
> >> to say *exactly* what you plan to build (in terms of frontend) when
> >> you don't what *exact* data you will have.)
> >>
> >> What are we going to do re. mysociety. In particular, if we are
> >> considering collaborating with them (which I think we are) do we not
> >> need to check asap with 4IP about how they would feel about this.
> >> Given that we now know the situation with mysociety, the longer we
> >> pursue our original application the odder it will look if we then wish
> >> to withdraw and make a joint application ...
> >>
> >> Rufus
> >
> >
>
>
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