[iRail] Commuters' strike

Pieter Colpaert pieter.colpaert at gmail.com
Sun Oct 31 14:25:50 UTC 2010


Hi Yeri and list,

The point about using jquery mobile is outsourcing the optimisation for
different mobile phones to the jquery community. As you can see here:
http://jquerymobile.com/gbs/ . If you check it closely I think the
support at this moment is quite decent and even better than what we have
at this moment.

With JQuery mobile you don't have to load everything from one page. You
can load an external page into the current page so no worries. The
About, news, feedback, ... page can be loaded separately. On top of
that: the current frontpage is 28.9KB to load. The JQuery one is 54KB to
load (This will not get any bigger). It's up to you to decide whether
this doubling in size is worth it.

I don't think we will have trouble finding the right people to give us
feedback on the new mobile site. We already have this mailinglist don't
we?

On the other hand, finding journalists who are willing to write about
this is not that easy and we have to provide them with decent stuff. I
have no experience whatsoever with dealing with press/media. So please
(and I'm talking to for instance Koen (kodel) or Steven (pekesenertjes)
here) give us some guidance on this.

Pieter



On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 11:50 +0800, Yeri Tiete wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> jq needs a lot of improvements (do we have the spare time, in 15 days?) and will need optimisation per mobile device. 
> Probably want to give users the option to return to the old interface as well for now. 
> Due to jq's nature to load all pages (well, it's just one page), we need to test its performance over slow and unstable networks (gprs).
> 
> We should have a fair user base to test new layouts as well. Any way to get a bunch of trustworthy beta-testers? Who'll provide us with feedback. And perhaps write blog posts about the new features/layouts/... ? :P
> 
> I contacted Lenzo Robijn, the FB page owner of the commuters' strike to get in touch with us.
> 
> Who will we proactively send to press release to? And it probably should be online somewhere as well (create PressRelease page on our wiki?) 
> 
> --
> Kind regards,
> Yeri Tiete
> yeri at tiete.be
> www.yeri.be
> +32 (0)474/61.01.39
> 
> On 31 Oct 2010, at 07:06, Pieter Colpaert wrote:
> 
> > Hey list,
> > 
> > I think Koen makes a pretty good point. We should show a button on the
> > mobile site for supporting a virtual strike. In meantime we should as
> > well release a new mobile webdesign based on jquery mobile (example
> > proof of concept here http://dev.irail.be/jq ), and go for a press
> > release.
> > 
> > Proposal to press-release and thus what we should implement and
> > accomplish by then:
> > * On the 15th of November iRail will do a virtual strike. This means on
> > that day you'll be able to go to the site and click a button. This way
> > you'll show your support for a better national railway company with less
> > striking days.
> > * On the 15th of November the iRail team will be launching their new
> > interface which should be finger-friendly and optimized for iPhone,
> > iPad, android, symbian, and other mobile devices.
> > * iRail remains by the people for the people and is developing native
> > apps called BeTrains, which is already available for android and soon
> > for iPhone, Nokia devices, samsung phones and windows mobile.
> > * If any developer wants to use trainschedules on their website or
> > somewhere else, they can do that through the API: http://api.iRail.be
> > * iRail is a community project and anyone is welcome to help out on
> > project.iRail.be. There are a lot of interesting things about to happen.
> > 
> > I really need your feedback on this one. Is this the right thing to do?
> > We should as well in some way work together with the facebook guys or at
> > least inform them that we're doing this. Can anyone contact them and
> > give them a link to this mailinglist post or maybe give them my e-mail
> > address? Anyone has any better/other idea that might be worth
> > considering?
> > 
> > Thanks a lot and before I forget to mention it: this community rocks.
> > 
> > Pieter
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 07:43 +0200, Koen Delvaux wrote:
> >> Commutere strike initiative is doomed to fail:
> >> Bad communication, bad activism and too much effort demanded from the
> >> participant.
> >> 
> >> BUT
> >> 
> >> Idea for press release:
> >> 
> >> Irail organises virtual commuters strike
> >> 
> >> Besides the commuters strike, there is also a virtual strike. People
> >> who use the irail.be application daily to know if their train wil be
> >> arriving on time will see a "virtual strike" button in their
> >> application on the day of the commuters strike. With this button,
> >> users can express their desire to go on strike against the union
> >> actions of nmbs/sncb.
> >> The virtual strike has been organised on popular request of the irail
> >> users. The irail team expects that as much as 60% of their users will
> >> participate in the virtual strike.
> >> By organising this action, the team behind irail wants to express
> >> their sympathy with customers who are disgrunted by the latest actions
> >> from nmbs/sncb unions.
> >> 
> >> If you think this is feasible I think it can get some press attention
> >> if we seed it. Details have to be looked up (is it on monday? Is it
> >> against unions or against sncb/nmbs? I didn't quite follow :))
> >> 
> >> Greets,
> >> 
> >> Koen
> >> 
> >> On Oct 30, 2010 2:06 AM, "Pieter Colpaert" <pieter.colpaert at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi List,
> >>> 
> >>> on the 15th of November some people got the idea of having a
> >> commuters
> >>> strike. The details of this are on facebook
> >>> (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=157172534318954) and enclosed
> >> in
> >>> this mail.
> >>> 
> >>> My questions to our community:
> >>> * Do we need to do something as the iRail community?
> >>> * Do you have any ideas? We sure have to stay up: we can't let the
> >> user
> >>> experience suffer, but we can put a link on the results page.
> >>> * Can anyone bring me in touch (phone number, instant messaging,
> >>> email, ...) with the starter(s)?
> >>> 
> >>> Any feedback welcome,
> >>> 
> >>> Pieter
> >> 
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