[MyData & Open Data] mydata-open-data Digest, Vol 14, Issue 20
Mark L
mark.lizar at gmail.com
Thu Apr 10 16:07:21 UTC 2014
It makes sense that the term Mydata is confused. MyData being defined as data about me that another organisation controls (but not individuals) is confusing and not immediately obvious if the term My Data is left without qualification.
There is the interpretation that the term Mydata refers to the data that I control. Which makes it confusing, perhaps not so much because of the term, but due to the lack of discussion and education about personal control of data and its value (and flow).
Either way, the term My Data is confusing.
When looking at Open Data, or Big Data, the process (in my humble opinion) must start from the point of view of personal data control and consent if it is to be useable and easily understood by people. In that I would mean usable transparency, Accessibility, Control in the context of consent to effect transfer .
I think we all agree that we need to control how much data we provide in different context and we also need data use policies that limit how my data will be used by others. I hope the term ‘My Data’ (and the approach to big business and gov) doesn’t distract from very important discussions in this regard. For instance from the context of personal data control the discourses around data retention and data minimisations become more meaningful. These are policy elements that should also be standardised to make policies (and terms like My Data) to be much easier to use and understand for people. (at the moment data practices online do not reflect data use practices in physical space, as a result they are not people friendly.
Thanks,
- Mark
On 10 Apr 2014, at 10:52, William Heath <wmheath at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the point about the term "MyData" (Midata, Mesinfos) is that in practice it's used to describe the data giveback policy or programme; the personal data affected is currently sitting with the service provider and, it is now proposed, it should be given back) in a process that runs through Transparency, Access, Control and then Transfer).
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> 1. Funding for OKFestival (Sally Deffor)
> 2. Re: existing legal frameworks of biometrics (Sally Deffor)
> 3. Re: existing legal frameworks of biometrics (Antti Jogi Poikola)
> 4. UK data-sharing -- Discussion paper published (Sam Smith)
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> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 15:11:07 +0100
> From: Sally Deffor <sally.deffor at okfn.org>
> To: stef <s at ctrlc.hu>
> Cc: "mydata-open-data at lists.okfn.org"
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> Subject: [MyData & Open Data] Funding for OKFestival
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> Hi Stef,all
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> See a message from the festival team with regards to funding- below
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> Dear Open Knowledge Community,
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> (Apologies for Cross Posting)
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> The OKFestival 2014 Team is happy to announce that we are *launching our
> Financial Aid Programme today!*
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> - *What:* OKFestival, 15-17th July 2014, Berlin
> - *How to Apply: *check out our Financial Aid
> webpage<http://2014.okfestival.org/info/aid/>
> - *Deadline: *Sunday 4th May
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> We're delighted to support and ensure the attendance of those with great
> ideas who are actively involved in the open movement, but whose distance or
> finances make it difficult for them to get to this year's festival in
> Berlin.
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> We're striving to create a forum for all ideas and all people and our
> Financial Aid Programme will help us to do just that. Read all about it
> now, apply <http://2014.okfestival.org/info/aid/> and please share the word!
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> We look forward to seeing you all in Berlin!
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> Best,
> OKFestival Team
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> On 9 April 2014 11:33, stef <s at ctrlc.hu> wrote:
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> > On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 05:31:26AM -0400, Mark L wrote:
> > > Perhaps we should have another Data Privacy hackathon just before
> > OKFestival? Would this be of interest for people here for July 12 & 13 in
> > Berlin?
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> > the event is prohibitively expensive for me to attend. :/
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> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 15:25:51 +0100
> From: Sally Deffor <sally.deffor at okfn.org>
> To: Antti Jogi Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [MyData & Open Data] existing legal frameworks of
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> Thanks Antti for sharing. I have also considerably revised my view on My
> Data over the past couple of days, and certainly after the workshop and the
> discussions surrounding William's presentation. I do agree with you on
> these points. I am wondering though if this is the general view coming
> from the meeting at the end of the sessions since the questions raised
> during the course of it showed quite a few interesting opinions!
>
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> On 9 April 2014 12:53, Antti Jogi Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Thanks a lot for the great discussion!
> >
> > I have re-shaped my earlier suggestion. Now I agree completely that
> > ownership regarding Personal Data is complicated and perhaps should be
> > explicitly excluded from the definition of MyData. Access, Control and
> > possibility to get the data (data giveback) are way more useful and
> > actionable terms.
> >
> > I still believe that there is place for the term MyData and that it is a
> > subset of the larger sphere of Personal Data ie. all My Data is also
> > Personal Data, but not all Personal Data is MyData.
> >
> >
> > On 4 April 2014 18:12, Antti Jogi Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> (OLD) Suggestion: MyData is a subset of Personal Data - the term MyData
> >> underlines ownership or at least access to my Personal Data.
> >>
> >
> > New suggestion: MyData is a subset of Personal Data - Personal Data means
> > any information relating to a person ('data subject') and it often exists
> > without the data subject's knowledge, access or control of the data. The
> > term MyData underlines the data subject's control of personal data and the
> > legal rights and technical possibilities to re-use the data freely.
> >
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> >
> > What exactly means to "have control of personal data" needs to be further
> > discussed.
> >
> > The TACT -model is good starting point for differentiating the levels of
> > rights and possibilities of the data subject
> >
> > T - Transparency
> >
> > Providers are open and transparent about what personal data they hold
> >
> > A - Access
> > Providers enable data subjects to have secure, personal access to data
> > held about them.
> >
> > C - Control
> > Providers give data subjects the ability to correct, update, change
> > settings, preferences, permissions etc.
> >
> > T - Transfer
> > Data is released back to the individual for re-use. Data can be analysed
> > and data subjects can take action.
> >
> > See (serach for TACT):
> > https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/32687/12-943-midata-2012-review-and-consultation.pdf
> >
> >
> > --
> > +358 44 337 5439
> > about.me/apoikola
> >
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> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 18:40:17 +0300
> From: Antti Jogi Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com>
> To: Sally Deffor <sally.deffor at okfn.org>
> Cc: "mydata-open-data at lists.okfn.org"
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> Subject: Re: [MyData & Open Data] existing legal frameworks of
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> Hi,
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> On 9 April 2014 17:25, Sally Deffor <sally.deffor at okfn.org> wrote:
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> > I am wondering though if this is the general view coming from the
> > meeting at the end of the sessions since the questions raised during the
> > course of it showed quite a few interesting opinions!
>
>
> We didn't quite have the time to conclude any "general view" yet, so
> consider this as my personal and still evolving view. However, we are right
> now having similar discussions going on in Finland among variety of people
> here, so some more general view might bubble up before the meetup in London
> 10-11.6.
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> BR -Jogi
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> From: Sam Smith <s at msmith.net>
> To: mydata-open-data <mydata-open-data at lists.okfn.org>
> Subject: [MyData & Open Data] UK data-sharing -- Discussion paper
> published
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> Given a bunch of people on this list are in the UK, there's a set of civil society organisations and Government departments having some initial conversations around data sharing, and what the frameworks and powers should be.
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> Note, that this is explicitly not data that can be published as open data, but is identifiable data used for defined and legitimate purposes; and the project is the discussion of what "defined, legitimate purposes" actually are, and conversations around that. Giving data back to the individuals who it is about (ie electronic subject access requests) are not in scope for that group (other than everyone agreeing that they're a good idea).
>
> The link for the discussion document is here: http://datasharing.org.uk/current-proposals/ and a mailing list you can join if you're interested in UK-centric prospective discussions.
>
> A number of people on the list are part of the group, and I suspect we'd all be happy to feed stuff back in for those who don't want to be part of that list (and early morning meetings in Whitehall[1]), but who are interested in broader aspects.
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> Sam
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> [1] and sometimes all 3 parts of that are disagreeable :)
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