[od-discuss] [Open-data-census] [CLARIFICATION REQUIRED] Can PSI Licence be considered an "open" license?

Wed Oct 9 16:48:05 UTC 2013

Thanks.  

To me clauses 4.1(4)(a), 4.1(4)(b), 4.1(4)(d), 4.1(6), 6.1(1)(b) (which
allows the Licensor to charge, for goodness sake) and 9.1 (Licensee to be
bound by a future Licence which may not be Open) all raise questions about
Openness.  It does not look like an Open Licence to me.

Regards

Andrew  

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[mailto:open-data-census-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of Denis Parfenov
Sent: 09 October 2013 17:00
To: Pieter Colpaert; od-discuss at lists.okfn.org; Ton Zijlstra; Rufus Pollock
Cc: open-data-census; Tracey Lauriault; Flora Butcher
Subject: Re: [Open-data-census] [CLARIFICATION REQUIRED] Can PSI Licence be
considered an "open" license?

Ton, Peter and Rufus,    

Thanks for your thoughts. I am not a lawyer either. Now I'm even more
puzzled.

(There is an ongoing debate among local open data community members whether
PSI open or not
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/open-data-ireland/0XSwDDneGEU> )

Lets see if anyone on od-discuss at lists.okfn.org can add some clarity.

Best,

Denis Parfenov

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On 9 October 2013 16:51, Pieter Colpaert <pieter.colpaert at okfn.org> wrote:

Concerning terms:

PSI is more than open data. PSI can be made available behind a pay wall
(marginal cost) and as far as I understood "for non commercial purposes
only" is also still PSI.

Just scrolling through the license, I've noticed that there is an article
which says sublicensing isn't allowed (if I understood correctly) and this
is certainly not an open license.

Kind regards,

Pieter

On 10/09/2013 05:45 PM, Rufus Pollock wrote:

Denis: suggest asking Open Definition list at
http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/od-discuss 

They have an official conformance process for checking licenses conform to
Open Definition.

Rufus

On 9 October 2013 16:17, Denis Parfenov <denis.parfenov at gmail.com> wrote:

Tracey,

I incline to consider PSI to be open also. Just checking.

Best,

Denis

On 9 October 2013 16:14, Tracey Lauriault <Tracey.Lauriault at nuim.ie> wrote:

Denis;

At the Hackthon in Dublin, the data invetory team had classified PSI as
open.

Cheers
t 

----- Original Message -----
From: Denis Parfenov <denis.parfenov at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:09 pm
Subject: [CLARIFICATION REQUIRED] Can PSI Licence be considered an "open"
license?
To: open-data-census <open-data-census at lists.okfn.org>, Ton Zijlstra
<ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>
Cc: local <local at okfn.org>, Christian Villum <christian.villum at okfn.org>,
Tracey Lauriault <Tracey.Lauriault at nuim.ie>, Flora Butcher
<daydreamer2105 at gmail.com>

> Hi Ton,
> 

> As you know most of the data produced by the Irish govt agencies
<http://psi.gov.ie/government-departments/>  fall under PSI license
<http://psi.gov.ie/files/2010/03/PSI-Licence.pdf> .

> 

> Quick and very important question: Do we consider PSI License as "open"
license? 
> 

> (I don't see PSI listed http://opendefinition.org/licenses/)
<http://opendefinition.org/licenses/> 
> 

> Thanks.
> 

> Best regards,
> 

> Denis Parfenov

> OKF Ambassador for Ireland 

> m: +353863850044 <tel:%2B353863850044>  I  @prfnv
<https://twitter.com/prfnv>  | prfnv.org <http://www.prfnv.org> 

> The Open Knowledge Foundation Empowering through Open Knowledge
http://okfn.org/ 

> 
> 

> 

Dr. Tracey P. Lauriault
Programmable City Project
National Institute for Regional and Spatial Analysis  
NUI Maynooth
Maynooth
Co. Kildare
Republic of Ireland

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