[od-discuss] [cc-community] Montreal will have the open license CC BY 4. A first in the Canada open data : An advantage for citizens.

Fri Feb 21 21:21:44 UTC 2014

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Diane Mercier <diane.mercier at gmail.com>wrote:

>  Many thanks Mike for the translation in english. Very appreciated
>

To be clear I only copy/pasted from an automated translation, but hopefully
saved others' moments or overcame their reticence (I try to never let
original language stop me from reading a web page; automated translation is
good enough to obtain key points).

> For the English speaking provinces and their municipalities, we hope that
> they will follow us ;-)
>
> Question : Does CC0 really surpass CC 4.0? Do you mean that any
> "provenance" metadata (like BY) is worse at all?
>
> IMHO, Knowledge (including data and information) is by definition linked
> to people and context (provenance metadata). Data and contents without
> people and context (space and time) cannot make sense (sensemaking).
>

I'm glad that you used the word provenance, one of my favorites. Provenance
is good, but not identical to attribution required for CC-BY compliance.
Even if it were, not everything good needs to be legally mandated, and such
has costs when it is. Further, for PSI, in particular data, I'd rather have
licensing aligned with ideal policy defaults, which in my opinion are
public domain for data, and public domain for PSI.

I admit that I'm just asserting an opinion here, not really making a case.
A bit more of each in some blog posts:
* http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2012/01/12/penumbra-of-provenance/
* http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2013/11/24/ugl/
* http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2013/11/25/upgrade-to-0/

There exist less snarky/more refined/more targeted for PSI versions of the
last by others, but I don't have pointers handy.

But this is just all saying CC0 surpasses CC BY 4.0. The latter is a fine
policy choice, and a great one relative to existing policies. My
unmitigated congratulations!

Mike
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