[od-discuss] broader community notice in license approval/OD update process (was Re: Nominate Aaron Wolf for Open Definition Advisory Council membership)

Sun Nov 16 03:06:42 UTC 2014

Thanks all, and agreed. Very happy to see progress in reforming the process!

Cheers,
Aaron

On 11/15/2014 02:37 PM, Herb Lainchbury wrote:
> On the topic of adding Aaron to the Council, agreed. Mike, thanks for
> both nominating and confirming.  Aaron, thanks again for your
> contributions thus far, and congratulations. :)
>
>
> As current chair, I favour further formalizing the process.  +1
>
> I am not concerned with the additional time required to approve licenses
> and as you say approvals the chair can always call for a timely response
> if necessary.
>
> On point 2) I would as that the list of parties / lists to notify be
> specifically included as well.  Not sure if we need a process to add
> parties to this list.  Could start with okfn-discuss to start.
>
> I think this process would work well for OD updates and license
> approvals as they would benefit from larger community feedback.
>
> I think we can do approvals of new members on this list alone.
>
> I wonder if for license approvals should the chair include the license
> author/custodian and the requester (that these are not often different
> parties) in the larger feedback summary so they can be aware that a
> decision is being made.
>
> Herb
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mike Linksvayer <ml at gondwanaland.com
> <mailto:ml at gondwanaland.com>> wrote:
>
>     More than two weeks has past, with no -1s so clearly Aaron is now on
>     the council, congratulations. :)
>
>     I think what reminded me to nominate Aaron (though he's made many
>     other fine contributions) was his insistence that we do a better job
>     of notifying broader community about important OD-related
>     developments. I think the 2.0 release was on net very positive, and
>     brought out some scrutiny that maybe would not have occurred if we had
>     just asked people to look at a draft. But we should ask people to look
>     at drafts anyway, maybe they'll even look now that their interest is
>     expressed.
>
>     I suggest we formalize calling for broader community feedback, for
>     both license approvals and OD updates. Right now
>     opendefinition.org/licenses/process
>     <http://opendefinition.org/licenses/process> includes:
>
>     "After submission, the Open Definition community will discuss on the
>     mailing list and reach consensus. The Open Definition Advisory Council
>     chair will summarize the consensus to the Advisory Council on the
>     mailing list. If after two weeks at least two Advisory Council members
>     approve the consensus summary on-list, and at least 75% of Advisory
>     Council members expressing an opinion on the summary if any dissent,
>     the website will be updated, and announcements made to public and
>     submitter, as appropriate."
>
>     Formalization of broader community feedback might make it look like:
>
>     "1. After submission, the Open Definition community will discuss on
>     the mailing list and reach consensus.
>     2. The Open Definition Advisory Council chair will summarize the
>     consensus to the Advisory Council on the mailing list and to other
>     relevant fora, okfn-discss at a minimum.
>     3a. If over next two weeks issues are raised which indicate a
>     different consensus or further discussion needed, chair will step
>     process back to first or second step as appropriate.
>     3b. Otherwise, chair calls for formal approval of consensus by
>     Advisory Council.
>     4. If after two weeks at least three Advisory Council members approve
>     the consensus summary on-list, and at least 75% of Advisory Council
>     members expressing an opinion on the summary if any dissent, the
>     website will be updated, and announcements made to public and
>     submitter, as appropriate.
>
>     This process will also apply to acceptance of new versions of the Open
>     Definition itself."
>
>     The obvious downside is more tedium and dragging out
>     approval/acceptance process by another two weeks. I think that's fine.
>     There's never any real rush to approve a license IMO, and if there is
>     a real rush the chair could call for something expedited. I think
>     license approvals as well as OD version acceptance should get a
>     broader community call because people on this list alone can't be
>     expected to understand all the pertinent background, other communities
>     are the primarily ones impacted, and it is a chance to remind everyone
>     about the OD.
>
>     Mike
>
>     On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Rufus Pollock
>     <rufus.pollock at okfn.org <mailto:rufus.pollock at okfn.org>> wrote:
>     > +1
>     >
>     > On 17 October 2014 08:27, Andrew Katz <Andrew.Katz at moorcrofts.com
>     <mailto:Andrew.Katz at moorcrofts.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> +1
>     >>
>     >> I also apologise for not having been more active on the list.
>     >>
>     >> Best
>     >>
>     >> Andrew
>     >>
>     >> > -----Original Message-----
>     >> > From: od-discuss [mailto:od-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org
>     <mailto:od-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org>] On Behalf Of
>     >> > Mike
>     >> > Linksvayer
>     >> > Sent: 17 October 2014 01:58
>     >> > To: od-discuss at lists.okfn.org <mailto:od-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
>     >> > Subject: [od-discuss] Nominate Aaron Wolf for Open Definition
>     Advisory
>     >> > Council
>     >> > membership
>     >> >
>     >> > I'm nominating Aaron Wolf to be an member of
>     >> > http://opendefinition.org/advisory-council/
>     >> >
>     >> > His on-list contributions over the last months have been
>     constructive
>     >> > and on-
>     >> > point. The council's work would benefit from his having an
>     officious
>     >> > vote.
>     >> >
>     >> > Disclosures: I've been advising Aaron's project Snowdrift.coop
>     mentioned
>     >> > in his
>     >> > bio. I checked with Aaron and Herb to see if they each thought
>     >> > nominating
>     >> > Aaron is a good idea. Hopefully they each still agree. :)
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > Bio:
>     >> > Aaron Wolf is co-founder of Snowdrift.coop, an in-progress
>     fundraising
>     >> > system
>     >> > working to address the collective-action dilemmas that affect the
>     >> > funding of the
>     >> > public commons. Otherwise, Aaron is a professional music
>     teacher, an
>     >> > amateur
>     >> > scholar, and a social activist. He holds the distinction of
>     producing
>     >> > the internet's
>     >> > most popular video for songs that teach brain anatomy. His website,
>     >> > wolftune.com <http://wolftune.com>, includes several articles
>     about Open Knowledge and related
>     >> > topics, particularly pertaining to music.
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > Mike
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