[ogdcamp] Who wants to run an OGDCamp satellite event around 17-26th October in Warsaw?

Thu Aug 25 16:04:01 UTC 2011

Hi Javier,

That's a good thought. Thanks! Capacity building is sort of the next step
after you've created awareness and willingness / organizational support.
Although at same time the McKinsey report seemed (from what I remember
skimming it, so I can be wrong) to me to look at the level of 'traditional'
skills required to deal with data, and not acknowledging the speed with
which new tool stacks are emerging that lower the threshold for working with
data in ways that social media does for sharing and publishing. But I also
see that how orgs earlier had 'documentalists' before they budget-cut them
away, they may very well now need data-librarians.

best,

Ton
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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Javier Ruiz <javier at openrightsgroup.org>wrote:

> Ton
>
> in the recent McKinsley report on big data they mention the need for
> 140,000 techs and 1 million managers in the USA to be trained to be able to
> benefit form the forthcoming data deluge.
>
> We want to bring this up in our UK consultation process in relation to what
> plans there are for training public employees, are you thinking of including
> capacity building as part of the workshops on how gov bodies can benefit?
>
> Javier
>
>
> On 24 August 2011 14:02, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Martin,
>>
>> As you perhaps saw in Paul Suijkerbuijk's e-mail earlier, it's his
>> intention to do a session for gov people. I myself am looking at doing a
>> session on how OGD is useful to gov bodies themselves, and that will
>> certainly focus on local authorities more than national I think. As in
>> cities/municipalities the connection between gov, data, living environment
>> and citizens is much directer most of the time.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Ton
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>>
>> 2011/8/22 Martin Kaltenböck <kaltenboeckm at punkt.at>
>>
>>> Hi Daniel
>>>
>>> Es wird jemand von der Stadt Wien nach Warschau kommen - ist das passend
>>> oder nur national govs? Danke fuer Info - wenn passend vernetz ich euch..
>>>
>>> Lg! Martin
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>>> Am 22.08.2011 um 21:15 schrieb Daniel Dietrich <daniel.dietrich at okfn.org
>>> >:
>>>
>>> Hi PAul
>>>
>>> Good to hear from you again and many thanks for your suggestions!
>>>
>>> We have actually discussed something very similar: a gov to gov workshop
>>> side event to the OGDCamp. The difference might be that a gov to gov
>>> workshop is kind of gov only an so not by default open for everybody. The
>>> reason for this kind of "invite only" events is that some gov people
>>> sometimes feel that they cant talk publicly about certain issues. We have
>>> organised this kind of "invite only" meetings with great success and people
>>> expressed that the informal, non-public character was essential for them to
>>> start a dialogue and to build trust. We might organises something similar as
>>> side event at OGDCamp again.
>>>
>>> So the question is: are your proposed meetings within this scope or are
>>> you proposing two more "open" events during the Camp / open to everyone?
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> On 22.08.2011, at 20:06, Paul Suijkerbuijk wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Jonathan,
>>>
>>>  First to all, as an introduction, I'm the project leader / community
>>> steward for <http://data.overheid.nl/>http://data.overheid.nl the dutch
>>> governement Open Data portal.
>>>
>>>
>>>  I would like to co-organize 2 meetings:
>>>
>>>  1 meeting of all Open Data portal project managers ;-) the guys like me
>>> first step is to come up with an issue list I would like to discuss
>>> during this session,
>>> second, setup a platform (email list..) to continue this on a longer term
>>>
>>>  2 meeting of government open data policy makers
>>> For this meeting too, an issue list will be set up.
>>>
>>>  Does this fit in the program?
>>>
>>>  Looking forward to meet you all !! :-)
>>>
>>>  Groeten Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Op 11 aug. 2011, om 02:12 heeft Jonathan Gray het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We're booking venues in Warsaw for around 17-26th October. Many
>>> partner organisations have expressed an interest in organising day or
>>> half day satellite events to the Open Government Data Camp, which will
>>> take place on 20-21st October. The slots are:
>>>
>>>  * 17-19th October - pre-camp events (Monday to Wednesday)
>>>  * 20-21st October - camp (Thursday/Friday)
>>>  * 22-26th October - post-camp events (Saturday to Wednesday)
>>>
>>> Partnerships on satellite events are *strongly* encouraged - both to
>>> reduce organisational overhead, and to encourage people to work with
>>> people they haven't worked with before (co-organising a satellite
>>> event is a great way to get to know someone!).
>>>
>>> For example, some folks from the European Journalism Centre,
>>> OpenCorporates, <http://OpenSpending.org/>OpenSpending.org and
>>> Scraperwiki have started planning
>>> for a workshop on data journalism and EU spending data on 24-26th.
>>>
>>> A few hypothetical suggestions:
>>>
>>>  * OpenCorporates and Sunlight Labs might want to run a workshop or
>>> codesprint on company names
>>>  * Scraperwiki and mySociety might want to run a scraping workshop on
>>> parliamentary information
>>>  * Civic Commons and Open Cities might want to run a day on open
>>> source tools for cities
>>>  * Creative Commons, Open Data Commons and LAPSI might want to run a
>>> day on legal tools for open data
>>>  * Transparency Hackers and the London Datastore might want to do
>>> something on organising hackdays
>>>
>>> What do people think? Any ideas? Any suggestions/preferences for
>>> dates? I'd quite like to do something on international open data
>>> principles [1] on the 19th October. ;-)
>>>
>>> [1] <http://blog.okfn.org/2011/07/08/we-need-international-open-government-data-principles/>
>>> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/07/08/we-need-international-open-government-data-principles/
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>>>
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