[ok-scotland] Fwd: first board meeting?

Wed Jun 30 11:42:49 UTC 2010

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On 30/06/2010 12:28, Robin Rice wrote:
> Hi Paola,
>
> OKF is an organisation like any other which receives funds and has to
> act legally. I don't know how well or not they accomplish that (or how
> other stakeholders view their transparency or lack of it), but
> associating the Open Knowledge Scotland activity such as the recent
> event with that organisation was simply a convenience, and presumably
> our event's success (e.g. turnout) was in part due to the good
> reputation of OKF.
>
> The Scotland group is more like a user group, and fortunately we don't
> have to deal with money or laws so I'd say the simplest thing is to use
> the list and occasional meetings to progress common interests without
> getting bogged down in organisational malarkey. Having a wiki space on
> the OKF site and this list is again a convenience, so let's use it
> productively. I doubt anyone has time to add much more
> structure/overhead/governance to our activities than that.
>
> I'd suggest using a non-OKF list if you want to start up a group that is
> not associated with OKF. Personally I'd rather we use this list and wiki
> to continue to share ideas and projects of the sort that were shared in
> the recent event. And bear in mind if the list gets too active people
> will unsubscribe, so let's use it with care.
>
> I'd also suggest removing the word Board from the wiki since there are
> no terms of reference for a board and we are really just an informal group.
>
> cheers,
> Robin
>
>
> Paola Di Maio wrote:
>> Hi Robin
>>
>> thats a great question, because technically, in the absence of a
>> statute, none of this board stuff sense
>> except that all decisions re OK Foundation are taken by a board that
>> meets secretly and is makiing decisions for OKScotland without us
>> knowing it
>>
>> So, my comments in the notes shared with Jonathan and Joe are
>> precisely aimed at claryfying what kind of open society
>> are we working o here?
>>
>> I think that it is implicitly understood that the bord makes all the
>> strategic decisions, and the board at the moment
>> does have 'secret' meetings where members of the community are not
>> invited, nor the contents of which is divulged
>> to members via minutes. That is a very poor model of transparency afaik,
>> Of course I have a problem with an organisational structure that
>> replicates the social models open knowledge is trying to
>> impact and evolve.
>>
>> OKF as it stands is a bit stuck, and thats because all decision making
>> processes are a bit of a mess, and not particularly effective, even
>> potentially doing exactly the contrary of what it says it does :-)
>>
>>
>> being in Scotland i think its accepted tradition to strive for
>> independence and justice
>>
>> As a consequence of studying with interest this field today it is
>> suggested that Open Knowledge Foundation Scotland is to have its own
>> decision making process which is not dependent on the non transparent
>> of OK Foundation in the UK
>>
>> A decision that I welcome anyone to challenge on this list (if someone
>> thinks its the wrong thing to do, lets talk about it)
>>
>> And I put it to you, and to this community, whether we should have a
>> board at all (I think 'techically' Scotlan should have its own board i
>> unless OK Foundation dissolves its board too, otherwise we depend on them
>>
>> And how do we go about self governance? I suggest we meet to discuss
>> this and all related issues when Jo is back fro holiday
>>
>> P
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Robin Rice <R.Rice at ed.ac.uk
>> <mailto:R.Rice at ed.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Paola,
>>
>> What is the difference between being a member of the group and a
>> member of the board? What is the remit of a board that anyone may join?
>>
>> Sorry if I haven't been paying enough attention.
>> Robin
>>
>>
>> Paola Di Maio wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings Folks
>>
>>
>> Following discussions with Jo and jonathan Gray
>> I have upated the OK Scotland page
>>
>> http://wiki.okfn.org/okscotland#preview
>>
>> we should start thinking of the first date for a meeting, pref
>> mid July onwards
>>
>> Please add yourself to the page if you d like to be on the
>> board, and write what meeting daterange would suit you
>> from the 15 July onwards
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> PDM
>>
>>
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