[OKCon-Programme] Speaker from Google?

Thu Mar 24 20:08:23 GMT 2011

dear all,

i also have issues with google as keynote. don't think that this is a 
good idea.

best,
adnan

David Bollier wrote:
>
> Dear Daniel,
>
> I would definitely invite either Robert Darnton and/or Brewster Kahle, 
> both of whom are key movers and highly knowledgeable.  I have no idea 
> if either would accept or be able to participate, however.  I would be 
> happy to invite Brewster, or to have you do so 
> (brewster at archive.org).  As for Darnton, I don't know him at all.  You 
> can probably locate his email via the Harvard library website.
>
> If you really want someone from Google, you might consider Alan 
> Davidson, Director of Public Policy, Google US (based in WDC), who has 
> a broad policy perspective on everything that Google does.  Or you may 
> want to invite project-specific Google people.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/24/11 3:43 PM, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>> Dear David, Chris, Jim, All,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments. I do agree that the position of Google in 
>> the is more than ambivalence, its problematic. But also Google is too 
>> big to ignore and this is why I would like to invite them ... not for 
>> propaganda but for a critical discourse. For the later people like 
>> Robert Darnton and / or Brewster Kahle are key! So I would suggest to 
>> invite both sides and try to have areal controversial discussion.
>>
>> @David: do you have contacts with one of the mentioned? Do you think 
>> its worth contacting them?
>>
>> I think this issue would be of high interest to the local German 
>> audience, since we have had lots of debate about google books and the 
>> related copyright issues.
>>
>> Regards
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 24.03.2011, at 20:29, David Bollier wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Chris.  Why not invite someone like Harvard University 
>>> librarian Robert Darnton, who is proposing a digital public library 
>>> as an alternative to the Google books project, or Brewster Kahle of 
>>> the Internet Archive, who has led similar efforts among universities 
>>> to band together and share digitized books rather than ceding this 
>>> task to Google?
>>>
>>> Google is too important to ignore, but its actual commitment to 
>>> free/open should be closely scrutinized especially if better 
>>> alternatives exist.
>>>
>>> David Bollier
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/24/11 3:18 PM, Chris Taggart wrote:
>>>> I have a bit of a prob with some of Google's stuff and its position 
>>>> on open data generally (i don't think it cares about it except 
>>>> insofar it helps its business goals/model.
>>>>
>>>> That said I think Google Refine is excellent and being a tool 
>>>> rather than a data store doesn't have the problems mentioned above.
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2c worth.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
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>>>> On 24 Mar 2011 17:42, "Daniel Dietrich"<daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>
>>>>> we are looking into the possibility to invite some one from Google 
>>>>> to OKCon
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of my head there are several Google Projects with relevance to 
>>>>> OKCon 2011 topics, such as:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Google Books http://books.google.com/
>>>>> - Google UNESCO World Heritage 
>>>>> http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/unesco/
>>>>> - Google Art http://www.googleartproject.com/
>>>>> - Google data liberation front http://www.dataliberation.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> - Google public data explorer http://www.google.com/publicdata/home
>>>>> - Google open data toolkit http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/
>>>>> - Google refine http://code.google.com/p/google-refine/
>>>>>
>>>>> But this is of corse very vague.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have suggestions or could even point me to people involved 
>>>>> in these projects this would be incredibly useful! Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
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